Glen Beck Vigorously Insisting Mormans are Christians.

Mormons have from time to time been specifically counseled as to what constitutes appropriate and inappropriate sexual conduct between spouses. Oral sex and other “unnatural” sexual practices, for example, have been labeled inappropriate.

Bah!

Who would read those TESTIMONIALS?

It is OBVIOUS they are biased!

Let's get it straight from the horse's... uh... MOUTH!

What is your church doing to help the male to stay true?

"All of this should be conveyed without having priesthood leaders focus upon intimate matters which are a part of husband and wife relationships. Skillful interviewing and counseling can occur without discussion of clinical details by placing firm responsibility on individual members of the Church to put their lives in order before exercising the privilege of entering a house of the Lord. The First Presidency has interpreted oral sex as constituting an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice. If a person is engaged in a practice which troubles him enough to ask about it, he should discontinue it."
- Official Declaration of the First Presidency of the Church, January 5th, 1982

"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life. Our modern prophet has indicated that no young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice. What is more, it too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation-practiced with another person of the same sex and thence into total homosexuality...."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Pages 77-79, 81-82

"Among the most common sexual sins our young people commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, [unwed] pregnancy, and abortions - all ugly sins - but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. They awaken lust and stir evil thoughts and sex desires. They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. Almost like twins, 'petting' and fornication are alike."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 65

spencer kimball "Also far-reaching is the effect of the loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 196

"And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Genesis 4:9-14.) That was true of murder. It is also true of illicit sex, which, of course, includes all petting, fornication, adultery, homosexual acts, and all other perversions. The Lord may say to offenders, as He did to Cain, "What hast thou done?" The children thus conceived make damning charges against you; the companions who have been frustrated and violated condemn you; the body that has been defiled cries out against you; the spirit which has been dwarfed convicts you. You will have difficulty throughout the ages in totally forgiving yourself."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965. Often-used quote still used today in LDS seminary classes.

kimball "I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965

"If adultery or fornication justified the death penalty in the old days, and still in Christ's day, is the sin any less today because the laws of the land do not assess the death penalty for it? Is the act less grievous? There must be a washing, a purging, a changing of attitudes, a correcting of appraisals, a strengthening toward self-mastery. There must be many prayers, and volumes of tears. There must be an inner conviction giving to the sin its full diabolical weight. There must be increased devotion and much thought and study. And this takes energy and time and often is accompanied with sore embarrassment, heavy deprivations and deep trials, even if indeed one is not excommunicated from the Church, losing all spiritual blessings."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Page 155

"How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Little indiscretions are the berries -- indiscretions like sex thoughts sex discussions, passionate kissing, pornography. The leaves and little twigs are masturbation and necking and such, growing with every exercise. The full-grown plant is petting and sex looseness. It confounds, frustrates, and destroys like the parasite if it is not cut out and destroyed, for, in time it robs the tree, bleeds its life, and leaves it barren and dry; and, strangely enough, the parasite dies with its host."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967.

301 posted on 02/26/2012 4:13:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: Invincibly Ignorant

And you're telling Mormons their belief in the ressurerection doesn't have enough power to save them?

II - you ain't payin' attention this Sunday.

The BIBLE says that. (Remember I told YOU to actually READ it for yourself? That's so you will NOT have to rely on another's 'interpretation'.)

IF you persist in being so lazy; you will FLUNK this course young man!!

302 posted on 02/26/2012 4:19:50 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: Invincibly Ignorant

Can I get all that in a little trac? I might go out witnessing today.

II; you are 'witnessing' to hundreds right now I'll guess!

303 posted on 02/26/2012 4:21:43 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: Invincibly Ignorant

Can I get all that in a little trac? I might go out witnessing today.

But; if you DO decide to go out; PLEASE!

Comb your hair!

304 posted on 02/26/2012 4:23:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: Invincibly Ignorant

Comb your hair!

# 8 you know....

The Rules

Learn and obey all missionary rules.
Keep your thoughts, words, and actions in harmony with the gospel message.
Read only books, magazines, and other material authorized by the Church.
Don't debate or argue.
Center your mind on your mission.
Dress conservatively. Elders: white shirts, conservative ties, and business suits. Sisters: conservative colors and skirts that cover your knees. No floor-length skirts or dresses.
Cut your hair regularly.
Keep your hair clean and neatly combed at all times in the approved style.
Be neat and clean.
Bathe frequently.
Use deodorant.
Polish your shoes.
Iron your shirt and business suit.
Arise at 6:30 A.M.
Study for 2 hours every morning.
Proselytize for 10 hours between 9:30 A.M. and 9:30 P.M.
Turn off your lights at 10:30 P.M.
Exercise regularly.
Write in your journal regularly.
Follow the "Missionary Gospel Study Program" (31157) for your personal study.
Regularly study the Missionary Guide and the Discussions.
Attend Sunday priesthood or Relief Society meetings, Sunday School, and sacrament meeting.
Attend the general session of Stake Conference.
Attend general conference broadcasts if available.
Avoid all other church meetings unless you have a special assignment or are brining an investigator.
Proselytize as much as possible on weekends and holidays because this is when you'll find people home.
End your preparation day at 6:00 P.M. and proselytize from 6:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M.
Wear your missionary uniform in public on preparation day while not engaged in recreational activities.
Arise at 6:30 on preparation day and study for 2 hours from the approved books.
Take care of your physical preparation for the week on preparation day: wash your clothes, clean your apartment, wash your car, get your haircut, and shop for groceries.
Write to your parents every week on preparation day.
Write less frequently to your siblings, friends, and acquaintances.
Don't communicate with any friends or acquaintances that are within or close to your mission boundaries, except as a part of official mission business.
Plan safe, wholesome, and uplifting activities for preparation day.
Stay with your companion during all activities.
Do not go on road trips.
Do not leave your assigned area without permission
Do not watch television.
Do not view unauthorized videocassettes.
Do not listen to the radio.
Do not listen to unauthorized audiocassettes or CD’s.
Do not participate in musical groups.
Do not participate in athletic teams.
Do not sponsor athletic teams.
Do not engage in contact sports.
Do not engage in water sports.
Do not engage in winter sports.
Do not engage in motorcycling.
Do not engage in horseback riding.
Do not engage in mountain climbing.
Do not embark on a private boat.
Do not embark in a private airplane.
Do not handle firearms.
Do not handle explosives.
Do not swim.
Do not play full court basketball.
Do not play basketball in leagues.
Do not play basketball in tournaments.
You may play half-court basketball.
Never be alone.
Seek advice from your mission president if your companion is "having difficulties".
Be loyal to your companion.
Ask your mission president for help if your companion doesn’t obey the rules.
Pray with your companion every day.
Study with your companion every day.
Plan your work with your companion every day.
Take time at least once a week for companionship inventory.
Seek to be one in spirit and purpose and help each other succeed.
Always address your companion as Elder or Sister.
Sleep in the same bedroom as your companion.
Do not sleep in the same bed as your companion.
Do not arise before your companion.
Do not retire after your companion. (apparently, being together is more important than getting the correct amount of sleep that your unique body requires.)
Frequently study with your companion the Missionary Guide section on companions.
Never be alone with anyone of the opposite sex.
Never associate inappropriately with anyone of the opposite sex (conversely, they don't mention whether or not it is against the rules to associate inappropriately with anyone of the same sex).
Do not flirt.
Do not date.
Do not communicate via phone or letter with anyone of the opposite sex living within or near mission boundaries.
Do not visit a single or divorced person of the opposite sex unless accompanied by a couple or another adult member of your sex.
Try to teach single investigators in a member’s home or have missionaries of the same sex teach them.
Always follow the above rules, even if the situation seems harmless.
Use the commitment pattern to get referrals from members.
Keep your dinner visits with member briefs and during the customary dinner hour in the area.
Remember to say thank you to those who feed you.
Visit members and nonmembers only at appropriate times.
Do not counsel or give medical treatment.
Do not stay in the homes of people when they are on vacation.
Only write letters to family members and friends at home.
Do not telephone parents
Do not telephone relatives.
Do not telephone friends.
Do not telephone girlfriends.
Contact your mission president in case of an emergency.
Take problems and questions to your mission president.
Do not write to the President of the Church or to other General Authorities. Letters from missionaries to General Authorities are referred back to the mission president
Respect the customs, traditions, and property of the people who you are trying to convert.
Obey all mission rules.
Obey the laws of the land.
Do not get involved in politics.
Do not get involved in commercial activities.
Do not give any information about the area.
Respect the customs and cultures of those who you are trying to convert to your own customs and culture.
Respect the beliefs, practices, and sites of other religions.
Do not say or write anything bad about the political and cultural circumstances where you serve.
Do not become involved in adoption proceedings.
Do not suggest or encourage emigration. (This rule is a bit ironic, given the now-defunct doctrine of gathering the believers to Zion)
Be courteous.
Provide community service.
Do not provide community service that isn’t approved by your mission president.
Do not provide more than 4 hours a week of community service.
Do not provide community service during the evening, weekend or holidays—those are peek proselytizing times.
Your mission president must approve your housing.
Keep your housing unit clean.
Do not live with single or divorced people of the opposite sex.
Do not live where the spouse is frequently absent.
Your living unit must have a private bath and entrance.
You may occasionally fast for a special reason, but generally the monthly fast is sufficient.
Do not fast longer than 24 hours at a time.
Do not ask friends, relatives, and members to join in special fasts for investigators.
Maintain your health.
Eat a healthy diet.
Sleep from 10:30 to 6:30.
Follow the approved exercise program.
Keep your body, clothes, dishes, linens, towels and housing unit clean.
Dispose of your garbage properly and promptly.
Follow the safety rules for all of your stuff.
Seek medical care if you are in an accident or become sick.
Be immunized.
Spend your money only on things relating to your mission.
Budget your money carefully.
Keep a record of what you spend.
Do not spend more than your companion.
Do not loan money.
Do not borrow money.
Keep a reserve fund of $50 to $100 at all times for transfers.
Pay your bills before leaving an area.
Pay cash for all resale literature and supplies ordered from the mission office.
Do not waste money on souvenirs.
Do not waste money on unnecessary items.
Be a frugal photographer.
Do not accumulate excess baggage.
Obey custom laws and regulations.
Pay fast offerings each fast Sunday to the bishop or branch president where you serve.
Pay tithing on outside sources of income (i.e. interest) to your home bishop or branch president.
Evaluate your funds a few months before the end of your mission. If you have more than you need, ask that less be sent so that you can return home without excess money.
Do not drive without a license.
Drive only Church-owned vehicles.
Do not drive members’ cars.
Do not drive nonmembers’ cars.
Do not give rides to members or investigators in Church-owned cars.
Use cars only on approved mission business.
Use cars only within the assigned geographical area.
Be conscious of safety at all times.
Drive defensively.
Wear your seat belt.
Pray for the Lord’s protection while driving.
If your companion is driving, assist him or her.
Do not tamper with the vehicle’s odometer.
Know bicycle safety rules.
Use extreme caution on your bicycle.
Do not ride your bicycle after dark.
Do not ride your bicycle in heavy traffic.
Do not ride your bicycle in adverse weather conditions.
Go directly to your new area when transferred.
Find your new companion without delay when transferred.
Have a maximum of two suitcases and a briefcase.

305 posted on 02/26/2012 4:24:21 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: Invincibly Ignorant

They're both manipulators of the Purity, simplicity and power of the ressurection. I'm an equal opportunity voice of reason.

Since Cs and Ms BOTH post here; the message is plainly messed up; according to you.

I do so hope that you'll straighten out any LURKERS, who are reading this thread, with the ACTUAL truth of the respiration.

306 posted on 02/26/2012 4:26:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

and i suspect you ARE a mormon troll, and i will treat you as such

NO no...

Merely a lonely soul that will say almost ANYTHING just to get attention and have some type of a 'conversation'.

307 posted on 02/26/2012 4:28:23 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

308 posted on 02/26/2012 4:29:27 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

I should have believed you and didn’t...

At least, GG, you've seen the error of your ways by not paying attention to my postings.

Now; if we can just get some of the OTHER folks on board...

309 posted on 02/26/2012 4:31:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: Elsie; goat granny

I should have believed you and didn’t...

Did ELSIE really say, "Don't go there; it is a time waster?"

310 posted on 02/26/2012 4:38:42 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: AnTiw1; Invincibly Ignorant

>> “so ARE you a mormon, just stirring up the shyte for your lord and savior Peepstone Joe, or what?” <<

.
No, Invincibly Ignorant just always tries to emulate his screen handle. (successfully, I might add)
.

311 posted on 02/26/2012 4:54:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)

To: editor-surveyor

312 posted on 02/26/2012 5:00:14 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I wouldnÂ’t vote for Romney for dog catcher if he was in a three way race against Lenin and Marx!)

Look!

It’s the Abersnackle Choir!

313 posted on 02/26/2012 5:52:40 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)

Of interest only to us goat lovers....:O)

314 posted on 02/26/2012 7:46:26 PM PST by goat granny

You know I will go to anything that says goats. I still play the Giggling with the goats from time to time and still love it...brings a smile to my old face...I stay off those other articles. Life is too short when your my age, I gave up heated debates about 25 years ago.... LOL

315 posted on 02/26/2012 7:51:19 PM PST by goat granny

To: editor-surveyor

316 posted on 02/27/2012 4:57:55 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)

317 posted on 02/27/2012 4:59:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

You scare me, I don’t think I’ll click on your link. LOL I have forbidden any political talk at my house, got a conservative, small L libertarian, and republican. and thank God no democrat..or if there is one, they keep their mouth shut. GG

318 posted on 02/27/2012 5:51:10 AM PST by goat granny

No need to CLICK; just slide your cursor over it.

The WebSite it’ll take you to is shown in the lower left corner of your screen.

If you then AIN’T scared; go for it! :^)

319 posted on 02/27/2012 8:22:55 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

Interesting that you have no problems in bearing false witness against me in “defense” of these “nice” mormons.

I will “bash” mormonism because mormonism “bashes” and has “bashed” Christianity from its inception, understand? I’m betting you don’t though, that you’re basing all of your arguments from an emotional perspective. Borne solely out of your “experiences” with mormons and not on any factual understanding of what mormonism teaches and stands for.

I’m still waiting for you to offer up your evidence that supports your accusations that I’m a liar.

Or does the “cat” have your tongue “kit”?

320 posted on 02/27/2012 8:33:26 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)

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