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1 posted on 04/01/2012 9:40:34 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Four months ago I read a report that deep ocean warming hadn’t altered much.

Scientific American has become politicized, so I no longer credit them with veracity.


2 posted on 04/01/2012 9:42:15 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


3 posted on 04/01/2012 9:44:46 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: smokingfrog
Yes it is. 0.1C over 140 years, and comparing the equipment and methods used...

APRIL FOOL'S!!!

4 posted on 04/01/2012 9:45:03 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: smokingfrog

it could very well be true. but, that it is because I drive a Tundra, not so much. projecting the cause onto ourselves
is self worship of a high order.


7 posted on 04/01/2012 9:47:54 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: smokingfrog

I don’t skin dive much below 900 meters anyway, it gets a bit tough to see anything down there;)


8 posted on 04/01/2012 9:47:59 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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.6C....that’s it. Over 135 years. Hell that’s meaningless.
It’s within the margin of error for analog measuring equipment.


10 posted on 04/01/2012 9:52:02 PM PDT by nvscanman
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To: smokingfrog

so what?


13 posted on 04/01/2012 9:53:36 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: smokingfrog
WE'VE DOOMED!


14 posted on 04/01/2012 9:53:40 PM PDT by garjog
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To: smokingfrog

.6 Degrees by what margin of error over 135 years?

Good grief.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/01/22/the-metrology-of-thermometers/


15 posted on 04/01/2012 9:58:13 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: smokingfrog

That depends on your definition of humor. The joke that keeps giving is government sponsored propaganda, how ever it is sad, because of all the people that are trained to follow blindly.

Do you prefer a blue or a red pill?


17 posted on 04/01/2012 9:58:59 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Be strong in truth!)
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” - - - On average, the global ocean is warmer by roughly 0.6 degrees Celsius at the surface and 0.1 degrees at depth.”

What is the margin or error?

What is the control for error between the various manufacturers for the last 135 years?

BTW, Opinion Polls have margins of error, thermometers have tolerance ranges, so why not margins of error for historical Scientific observations, by humans?


18 posted on 04/01/2012 9:59:40 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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global ocean is warmer by roughly 0.6 degrees Celsius at the surface and 0.1 degrees at depth.

"0.1 degrees at depth" = Meaningless taking accuracy of instrumentation into account.

"global ocean is warmer by roughly 0.6 degrees Celsius at the surface" = What was that nasty old sun doing during that time period?

19 posted on 04/01/2012 9:59:44 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: smokingfrog

Scientific American - a once proud publication - has come to push a political agenda. No thanks.


21 posted on 04/01/2012 10:01:03 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: smokingfrog

What a stupid article...or an article for the stupid.

The 1872 measurements would only be significant if:

1. They had ocean temperature measurements from the same locations from 1737, from which they theoretically could establish a trend

2. They had ocean temperature measurements from the same locations immediately prior to and periodically after the industrial revolution and the associated increase in the use of CO2 producing hydrocarbon energy sources that came with it.

In other words, the article is complete BS.


22 posted on 04/01/2012 10:05:25 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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.1 degree in 135 years? Even without the "margin of error" and antiquated equipment, does anyone other than the nose-picking, hand-wringing, liberal donks really give a $h!+?

The ocean currents are in constant movement and variations that small mean nothing.

The only thing "revealed" by this hogwash is the left's desparation in trying to sell the rest of us on this global warming myth.
26 posted on 04/01/2012 10:26:05 PM PDT by FrankR
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To: smokingfrog
1600 AD -1850 : (LITTLE ICE AGE------ see LORD NELSON, CAPTAIN COOK) "Their studies have raised questions about modern climate change theories. A paper by Dennis Wheeler, a geographer based at Sunderland University, recounts an increasing number of summer storms over Britain in the late 17th century. Many scientists believe that storms are caused by global warming, but these [in the new study] came during the so-called Little Ice Age that affected Europe from about 1600 to 1850. The records also suggest that Europe saw a spell of rapid warming, similar to that experienced today, during the 1730s that must have been caused naturally." ------Lord Nelson and Captain Cook's shiplogs question climate change theories, Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | August 4, 2008 | Tom Peterkin

http:/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2496902/Lord-Nelson-and-Captain-Cooks-shiplogs-question-climate-change-theories.html Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 6:18:54 AM by Cincinatus

28 posted on 04/01/2012 10:27:31 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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135 Years of Records Reveals Deep Ocean Warming

"Ocean warming, ocean warming! ....Man-made ocean warming! We must have an ocean warming tax!"

34 posted on 04/01/2012 10:45:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: smokingfrog

It wouldn’t shock me.
Seismic activity seems to be at a peak.


36 posted on 04/01/2012 10:46:43 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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I guess we’ll just have to add the “special chemical” to the oceans now.

The one that causes water to change color when folks pee in it.

They’ll have to be identified via the coloration change and then fined substantially for “warming” Mother Gaia.

It’s the only way this “alarming trend” can be stopped.


38 posted on 04/01/2012 10:51:51 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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In 1872, how did they obtain an accurate temperature measurement at 900 meters?

The instrument had to be pulled back on ship to read, correct?

At the very least, that means it spent 1 or 2 minutes in progressively warmer water.

Were temperatures read on deck in hot summer sunshine?

Were they read in freezing winter winds?

Has anyone rebuilt the 1872 instrument and tested it against the exquisitely precise 2012 instruments?

43 posted on 04/01/2012 11:19:00 PM PDT by zeestephen
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