Posted on 08/12/2012 7:19:44 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
INS Arihant, planned to be the first of five submarines of its class, will be ready to begin sea trials, said Admiral Nirmal Verma, the navy commander. When the vessel eventually becomes operational, India will be able to launch nuclear missiles from the sea, land and air, joining a handful of countries possessing the "nuclear triad".
The strategic aim is to deter China and Pakistan and establish India as the leading power in the Indian Ocean. "INS Arihant is steadily progressing towards becoming operational," said Adml Verma. "We are pretty close to putting it to sea."
The navy was poised to "complete the triad, and our maritime and nuclear doctrines will then be aligned to ensure our nuclear insurance comes from the sea," added Adml Verma. "Given our unequivocal 'no first-use commitment', a retaliatory strike capability that is credible and invulnerable is an imperative."
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
[ Surely you jest, because their populations are close and China’s population is not “several billion”: ]
You’re not good with war... are you a butcher or candle maker?
You need to brush up on geography. Between China and India sits the tallest and longest and widest mountain range on the globe...the Himalaya’s.
For thousands of years of past history, the only land access to India was the 2 passes...the Khyber pass and the Karakoram pass. These are located in NW direction from India, The Mongols & Arab invaders used those routes 13 centuries back.
China is located in North-East direction from India.
You be wrong...
Grow up sitting on the floor?
Charlie Smith has written for quite a few publications, it is hard to keep tract where it might have ended up (Newsmax, his own site Software.net and some intelligence and business oriented intelligence reports). I will do a little digging and see if I can come up with anything. Smith is amazing with what he unearths. Check out the link to his old site. Unfortunately, I don't have is email address.
The real issue for the intelligence world came when they started doing grid counts of people in the rural areas of China. There were just too many people in grids to match with the public Chinese statistics (by a factor 50%). I haven't been able to find a source yet...and I still need to get some work done tonight.
Why, so that they can crash into each other, rocks or fishing boats?
LOL!
If that picture shows their submarine they need to go back to the drawing board... (It’s not like someone would illustrate an article about a submarine with a pic of a missile, right?)
Maybe you should apply for the job of Secretary of Defense to Obama. Obama needs talented people like you.
Here is what Arihant looks like.
http://www.info4security.com/Pictures/web/o/r/d/INS_Arihant.jpg
Seriously, try some geography lessons.
ROFLMAO!
Due to the hukou system, 60 years of migration to cities from the rural countryside is not recorded by the official Chinese census. Migrants continue to be classified by their rural hukou and counted in the official census as residents of the rural area from which they came. Even the children of rural residents living in a city are counted as “residing” in the rural area with which their father’s family or grandfather’s family was classified in 1951.
The second article is more interesting, and it does seem to support a potentially higher population for China then the official census records. However, there are few important qualifiers on that. First, they estimated the population of china to only be 22% higher than reported, not 100%. Second, if I am reading that study properly, they are claiming that many national census reports around the globe are too low. By their estimates, Brazil is under-reporting by 19%, Turkey by 40%, Canada by 32%, Thailand by 26%, and so on. Even the US population is actually 7% higher in their opinion. So this is less a case of China conspiring to hide their population, as it is census results globally being inaccurate.
As I mentioned, the real analysis was done with grid counts of the population though satellite imagery. I will see if I can get a hold of Smith. It may make take a few days with my schedule and I don't have his email address in my current contact file.
Do you ever wonder why China put so many of the huge ghost cities out in the middle of nowhere? A lot of those cities make no sense when analysts try and compare the official government line with their actions. I read a piece a couple of years ago, that the Chinese have something like 2 million more rural peasants moving (or trying to move) the big cities for jobs and a better life than the cities are capable of handling. There is supposedly a lot discontent with the rural population and the meager existence they have.
I did some searches on population grid counts and Chinese underestimating. Didn't find anything. As I mentioned, the piece was written sometime in the 90s and may have been before the internet (and search) became of age.
Thanks for the link. But you know I was joking, right?
> To: hosepipe
>> “Maybe the Indians can nuke themselves when they attack
>> India.. OR some can escape in the submarines..”
> Maybe you should apply for the job of Secretary of Defense
> to Obama. Obama needs talented people like you.
Obama is trying hard to bring down America’s defenses already.
> Here is what Arihant looks like.
>
> http://www.info4security.com/Pictures/web/o/r/d/INS_Arihant.jpg
Thanks. It looks a lot better than the Obama-funded electric vehicle that blew up and endangered the neighborhood.
You are both wrong.
Anyone can clearly see this is a very scary automatic weapon.
/journalist
> Maybe they should outsource design/construction to the USA.
Why, so unions can make more money and fund liberal campaigns?
Freedom of speech is great.
It helps us to identify the idiots.
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