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1 posted on 10/06/2012 1:51:07 PM PDT by presidio9
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With the possible exception of claiming N. Sea oil, just where is the great wealth of today’s Scotland—where government spending is over 50% of GDP?


2 posted on 10/06/2012 2:07:23 PM PDT by Lysandru
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Don’t take your Euros away from me
Don’t you leave my banks in misery
If you go then we’ll be screwed
‘Cause breaking up his hard to do

Remember when you bailed us out
And with your balance sheets you gave us clout
All the austerity that we’ve been through
Breaking up is hard to do

They say that breaking up is hard to do
Now I know, I know that it’s true
Flanders and Scotland, please don’t go
Catalonia, don’t you love Spain no mo?

I beg of you, don’t say goodbye
Give the Euro pact another try
Come on baby, let’s start anew
‘Cause breaking up is hard to do


3 posted on 10/06/2012 2:12:18 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ("Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own." -- Aesop)
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Heh.

I misread the first word as California and thought it was going to be about our more productive regions wanting out leaving socialist states like NY and CA to fend for themselves instead of leaching off others..


11 posted on 10/06/2012 2:58:46 PM PDT by Voice of Reason1 (Absolute power corrupts absolutely Lord Acton 1887)
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No you can’t go who will pay for all the deadbeats we created. Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money, the responsible peoples money


12 posted on 10/06/2012 3:03:44 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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What” Not going to thrown themselves on the socialist sword for the good of the EU .... how selfish and unpatriotic of them!


13 posted on 10/06/2012 3:03:44 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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The whole Euro system is communism and Obama's redistribution of wealth....no matter how you slice the haggis.

It is doomed to failure eventually because of just the points made in the article....the rich get sick of subsidizing the poor, plain and simple.

You can't fool Mother Nature and human nature....for long.

Leni

18 posted on 10/06/2012 3:43:21 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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I would love to see globalism take a nose dive beginning with Europe. Globalists suck. It’s a nasty ideology.

I guess any elitist group dreaming of ruling the whole world and controling the wealth of the world is bad news. Whether it is based in Russia, Germany or a “diversity” of elitists from Saudi Arabia, Europe and America, the same outcome of mass murder, oppression and suffering is guarenteed.

Let every nation have it’s own native culture and struggle for it’s own well being as the people of that Nation see fit. Ditch the “citizen of world” elites’ dreams of controling the globe.


21 posted on 10/06/2012 3:55:55 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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26 posted on 10/06/2012 4:38:06 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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socialism is great ‘til you run out of other peoples’ money. amen maggie!


36 posted on 10/06/2012 6:17:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: presidio9; All

What does “paralyzed in amber” mean on the page 2 reference to Berlin? Anybody?


43 posted on 10/06/2012 7:11:30 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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I think it would be great if this were to actually happen. In general, I think it would benefit conservatives more than the left, for one thing, although I think that as a matter of principle it’s a good thing too.

Let’s think about the likely results for a moment. Sure, Scotland is a left-wing nation and an independent Scotland will stay in the stifling EU. Fine, but far more importantly, without the Scots England will shift noticeably to the right and it will be easier for the Torries to win again in the future (and hopefully not only in coalition with left-wingers).

Like the Scots, the Catalans are very lefty. So, once more the bulk of Spain would shift to the right without Catalonia, while Catalonia won’t have to keep giving over its hard-earned money to poorer neighbors. A win-win situation, I’d say.

The situation in Flanders is quite different, however. Flanders is the largest area in Belgium and the nationalists there are on the right rather than the left. If Flanders gets its independence, its leaders are almost certain to implement anti-Islamic immigration measures that may save the area from eventual Islamic demographic take-over, as is projected to happen in other European countries. Besides this, Flanders will become a richer nation almost overnight. Considering the Dutch Flemings and the French Walloons have little in common, certainly less than the Scots and English or Catalans and Spanish, I think the Flemish have a great claim to independence and the idea has been popular there for a while now.

Beyond this, I just think that one nation of people shouldn’t be controlled by a different group of people against their will. It’s anti-democratic. And any way, all these areas once were independent after all. Why shouldn’t they have the right to be independent once again if the majority of their people want it that way?


79 posted on 10/08/2012 12:21:54 AM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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