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1 posted on 01/20/2013 6:34:36 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: afraidfortherepublic

—ping—


2 posted on 01/20/2013 6:35:24 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank
Well, we just as well should change the party names:

GOP --> Man's Party

'Rat Party (other than the Party Party and the Crook's Party) ---> Party for Wusses.

3 posted on 01/20/2013 6:44:40 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: rellimpank

Yah, yeah, yeah.
Pardon me, but I’ve heard all this BS before.
INSTEAD OF splitting us up into groups, why not try TO PERSUADE the opposition to our point of view?

I mean—we ARE RIGHT, aren’t we?
So—let’s DOT IT already.


4 posted on 01/20/2013 6:45:27 AM PST by Flintlock (H)
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To: rellimpank

Constitutional rights are not dependent on poll numbers. Remember that the next time some propaganda agency tries to use some made up poll numbers to justify infinging them.


5 posted on 01/20/2013 6:46:43 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: rellimpank

More to the point, we never should have given women the vote...


6 posted on 01/20/2013 6:48:36 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: rellimpank
Women are heavily overrepresented in poll results ~ that's not because someone pre-loads a bunch of women into the sample selection, but because all that needs to happen is have more women answer the pollster's calls.

And they do.

You can't trust any polls ~ not even product surveys these days. The problem is the average poll gets only a 9% response. That situation leaves them all open to manipulation by conscious decision or happenstance.

That 9% response rate means that if you call 100 people, 9 end up answering the questions. Each responding individual is then worth a full 11% of the poll response, not a simple 1%.

A small group of 5% of the total population, that always responds to polls, knowing what's going on, can misrepesent it's minority opinion as constituting 55% of opinion.

Gays can make it look like gay marriage is highly popular, yet actual votes show that idea being rejected in most of the country. Abortion rights advocates can make it seem that nearly half the nation prefers abortion to birth. Mormons can mke it seem that Romney is going to sweep in on a landslide!

It's entirely possible electric vehicles, HP tablets, gun controls and a wide variety of other failing products and policies have benefited for a time from such distortions in the traditional polling systems.

So, let me say this about that, print is dead, polls are dead!

7 posted on 01/20/2013 6:48:54 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: rellimpank

Thousands join pro-gun rallies in state capitals

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/19/pro-gun-rallies/1847739/


10 posted on 01/20/2013 7:12:59 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: rellimpank
Dividing line?

Pretty simple:

"Free Men need not ask permission" ~TF

And a child can understand this:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

11 posted on 01/20/2013 7:23:56 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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But women were overwhelmingly opposed.

Obviously, they did not poll my wife who got her renewed Concealed Carry license in the mail yesterday!

12 posted on 01/20/2013 7:30:27 AM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation.)
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Don’t believe it. They want women to think they are not socially acceptable if they are pro-gun. Its just Psych games. Its aimed at women who may be considering the issue but worry what their friends will think. All one has to do is look at the massive number of women buying guns and taking CCW classes. ... can’t let a victim class get off the plantation ya know.


13 posted on 01/20/2013 8:09:48 AM PST by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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Like many other dinosaur media types, this paper has been constantly fanning the flames of gun control. These papers fan every election into a white-hot debate. As a result, they get millions more “hits” and their revenue goes up.

Clearly, now they are using the gun debate as they are putting out gun articles EVERY DAY, sometimes, like today, more than one article per day. Again, they are intentionally fanning the flames of debate so they gin up their hits and get more people to post on their site. This raises revenue for them.

I, for one, am sick and tired of taking their bait and being used. I refuse to click on gun articles in the corrupt MSM to help them! Obama presented his 23 bureaucratic executive orders, multiple political leaders said gun control legislation is dead, so until something of substance occurs we all ought to stop allowing the corrupt MSM to manipulate us. I'm done.

14 posted on 01/20/2013 8:32:02 AM PST by Obadiah (Of course Obama wants to protect our children. After all, who else is going to pay off his debt?)
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To: rellimpank
One thing you cannot do is convince a true believer gun grabber of their error. To change their minds, they have to be mugged by reality and even then, some are in such deep denial that this will not awaken them to the danger of a government run amok. They cannot understand the threat of a government where the rule of law is subverted to the rule of men.

For all the gun grabbers they need it spelled out to them short and sweet: If you come to confiscate American’s guns, the armed Americans will kill you.

16 posted on 01/20/2013 8:58:20 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: rellimpank
I had a job interview about a month ago that was conducted by 3 women. Since the job I was interviewing for would involve checking other people's weapons in and out of secure lockup, I found a way to sneak in the phrase “...and I have proof that I'm able to handle firearms safely” and showed them my CCL. At first all 3 women were taken aback, and couldn't understand why I'd ever want to carry a gun. Within 5 minutes, I had explained my position well enough that they were actually telling each other what a good idea that was, and that maybe they should look into getting one!

People's opinions are rarely changed by slogans. But honest, non-confrontational conversations are another matter.

(PS; In case anyone was wondering, the job I was interviewing for was Evidence Clerk at the county sheriff’s office.)

18 posted on 01/20/2013 10:44:18 AM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: rellimpank
The Colt revolver was know as the "equalizer" for a reason. Women are coming around to that point of view.

Regards,
GtG

20 posted on 01/20/2013 4:07:46 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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