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To: skeeter

During the standoff I was watching NBC4 out of LA. They interviewed two people live. One was a person who lived near the cabin. The other lived near the house where he had taken the people hostage.

In both instances, when asked a leading question about being relieved the ordeal was over, these residents had the same answer. They were relieved because they could now rest easy that the police wouldn’t hurt them....they viewed the police as a much greater threat to their safety than Dorner.

Think about that. The residents of this area were afraid of the police. More afraid of them than a homocidal maniac.

Dorner is a piece of crap, and I don’t support him.

However, I don’t like it when the police say the house accidentally caught fire (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, giggle)...when we all know they deliberately caught it on fire. That would fall into the category of the government lying to the people. And not just any government official, but the part of the government with the ability to use deadly force against its citizens. That scares the hell out of me.

I’m not going to celebrate the tactics at all. At least some of these police will have a conscience...and be haunted for the rest of their lives by how they ganged up on this guy to kill him like an animal.


90 posted on 02/14/2013 7:45:53 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew
And not just any government official, but the part of the government with the ability to use deadly force against its citizens. That scares the hell out of me.

ALL government, inherently, has the ability to use deadly force to impose its will on its citizens. That is why it must be vigorously contained by vigilant citizens.

We may be beyond the point where this is possible, though.

98 posted on 02/14/2013 7:50:43 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: lacrew

Now that the LAPD knows how to determine innocence or guilt without a trial, I propose the following:

Let’s eliminate judges, courtrooms and due process. Let the police decide who is guilty and let them decide on and carry out the punishment.

What could possibly go wrong. We’ll save billions of dollars and put thousands of lawyers out of business.


102 posted on 02/14/2013 7:56:10 AM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: lacrew
However, I don’t like it when the police say the house accidentally caught fire (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, giggle)...when we all know they deliberately caught it on fire. That would fall into the category of the government lying to the people. And not just any government official, but the part of the government with the ability to use deadly force against its citizens. That scares the hell out of me.

If they'd mounted a loudspeaker on an armored truck, rolled up, told him he had 5 minutes to come out or be burned out, burned him out when he didn't come out, and told the public that's exatly what they did, I'd be totally cool with the whole thing because Dorner was a POS who needed killing. My problem is there's no real indication they did that and it looks a great deal like they out and out lied about their reason for using the incendiary gas.

225 posted on 02/14/2013 10:25:21 AM PST by libstripper
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