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Dorner Manhunt Reveals Police Contempt for Public Safety
Reason ^ | February 15, 2013 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 02/22/2013 3:37:46 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 02/22/2013 3:37:54 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

IBTBL


2 posted on 02/22/2013 3:41:22 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: neverdem
This is just silly.

If anything, it shows the influence of Feminism in the police department. All the rules have been changed to accommodate hysterical female cops - and hysteria is catchy.

Everyone is acting like a frighten woman.

All this cop-hating is leading to anarchy!

3 posted on 02/22/2013 3:43:46 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: neverdem
ya mean like shooting FIRST... then making sure of the target later???
4 posted on 02/22/2013 3:43:46 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem

Somewhere in the greater L.A. area, there is a truck OR 2 that ain’t shot up enough to suit the LAPD...


5 posted on 02/22/2013 3:44:33 PM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: neverdem
Here's one of Obama's cherished gun violence stories from mybarackobama.com:

"As a former Master Sergeant of the USAF Pararescue, I don't believe that I should be afraid that a civilian can shoot me dead in the street. The only thing that separates a civilian from a criminal is a criminal act, by then it's too late."

This sort of LEO attitude is a bit disturbing. The only thing that separates a civilian from a criminal is a criminal act? And by then it's too late? Well golly gee whillikers, I guess the civilians had better be shot before they can commit a criminal act, because then it's too late.

6 posted on 02/22/2013 3:46:56 PM PST by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: freedumb2003

If police officers are so incompetent they can’t distinguish between a suspect’s vehicle and that of an innocent by-stander, they don’t deserve to be on the job, period. Misusing your weapon isn’t an excuse just because you wear a badge. You should be held to a higher standard precisely because you wear the uniform.


7 posted on 02/22/2013 3:48:49 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: donna
All this cop-hating is leading to anarchy!

You say that like it is a bad thing.

8 posted on 02/22/2013 3:49:49 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Steve Van Doorn; Syncro; ProtectOurFreedom; Citizen James; abigail2; ...
I think this "police culture" is more prevalent among big city cops, IMHO. The NYPD certainly has an us versus them attitude.
9 posted on 02/22/2013 3:52:10 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Good Article. The current police culture in this country is evil and needs to change. The fact that they do not consider themselves “civilians” says a lot.


10 posted on 02/22/2013 3:55:21 PM PST by microgood
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To: goldstategop

There were 6 officers involved in blazing away at the two little old ladies delivering newspapers.

I’ll lay $5 that 4 of them will be promoted within the next two years.


11 posted on 02/22/2013 3:56:06 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: neverdem

I had a short conversation with an LAPD detective about the shooting in Torrance. What he told me:

The police were there on stakeout outside the house of someone on Dorner’s hit list.
It was 4:30 AM and dark. Thus spotting the make and color was difficult if not impossible (something this article stresses as exceptional.)
The pickup was moving with its lights off.
The driver did not respond to orders from the stakeout (perhaps having radio on).
Instead of a compliance, an arm came out the window (to toss newspaper we now know.)

The media has not mentioned nor this piece at “Reason.”

This is the first time I’ve written on this topic and haven’t scanned any of the other responses on other threads. So I don’t know what has been discussed.

I simply feel it’s right that an LAPD detective’s unofficial, off the record recounting to me is worth lurkers finding near the top of this thread.


12 posted on 02/22/2013 3:57:19 PM PST by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: neverdem

Cops do a lot of Ohio State type events yet they aren’t even soldiers, and Ohio State was made a permanent part of historical horrors.

Too many cops are just too panicky and fearful to be packing guns.


13 posted on 02/22/2013 3:57:56 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: elkfersupper

I appreciate the hard work of the “thin blue line” in keeping the rest of us safe. I’ve dealt with cops who’ve gone out of their way to look after me and cops who gave me a break even though they weren’t obligated to give it to me.

But there are also cops who think their badge gives them an entitlement to act like every one out there is a threat to them. They lose sight of the fact most people are not criminals and its not the public’s job to protect them, its their job to protect people going about their lawful business in society.

That is what separates the decent cops from those who think every one is out to get them. Most police officers appreciate the support of the public. For the “thin blue line,” the line in front of them must always be as clear and honorable as the public they’re charged to serve.


14 posted on 02/22/2013 4:00:39 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem

That is certainly true in my case. When I lived in Fairfax County, and Alex’, VA, all the pigs were scum-sucking, sub-human filth, not fit to lick the sweat from the back of my, well, you know. Since moving to western Loudoun County, the police officers are nothing short of wonderful. The difference is breathtaking.


15 posted on 02/22/2013 4:00:56 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: microgood
The current police culture in this country is evil and needs to change. The fact that they do not consider themselves “civilians” says a lot.

Not every department. SJPD are still peace officers, LAPD are law enforcement.

Strangely enough San Jose has a low murder rate, while LA...?

16 posted on 02/22/2013 4:01:11 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

I appreciate the insight.


17 posted on 02/22/2013 4:03:15 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: neverdem
Also, how did they know nobody else was in the house with Dorner before they torched the place “like planned”? He tied up two people in another house just hours before.

If they did burn other people in the house, we would never know. The fallout would be unimaginable.

Shooting at random people in cars and blindly burning down homes are not the actions of legitimate police. These are the actions of a jackboot secret police that is willing to gamble with the lives of citizens to save their own a**es. Even though they (allegedly) got lucky in this case and didn't kill anyone while getting their man, there's absolutely no justification for such recklessness.

18 posted on 02/22/2013 4:03:15 PM PST by varyouga
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

City police cannot operate like combat troops at war, they can’t decide to have free fire zones determined individually and in our neighborhoods and just take out suspicious vehicles and then go examine them to see if one of the bodies is the bad guy they were looking for.

Two different vehicles came under fire using this technique, and neither of them had anything to do with anything.


19 posted on 02/22/2013 4:04:48 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: donna

So I wonder how many know the names of the 4 people Dorner murdered?

They don’t sound much different than Obama who probably doesn’t even know the name ‘Chris Kyle’.


20 posted on 02/22/2013 4:05:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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