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Dorner Manhunt Reveals Police Contempt for Public Safety
Reason ^ | February 15, 2013 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 02/22/2013 3:37:46 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Alaska Wolf

Your acting out your jack wagon fantasies on fellow Freepers.

It’s not Kewel.

I’m drinking Vodka/Diet Coke. Wuz gonna have some delicious Oban but, didn’t feel like going to the bar.

Besides, sometimes brown liquor gives me a bit of a hard time the next morning.

As I have business to attend to I’m going with getting lit on Clear Liquids.

Maybe a cigar when I go for a walk in an hour or so.

What are you drinking?


161 posted on 02/22/2013 10:27:47 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: null and void

Maybe time to move on.


162 posted on 02/22/2013 10:28:34 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome
Who gives a flip?

Not CT freaks. Facts aren't important to them.

Further, they should have called in backup.

Where does it state that they didn't?

Further still, they should have ascertained who was in the vehicle. More Further, the vehicles weren’t even the same color.

It was dark. How good are you at seeing colors when it is dark? What do you suggest, walking up to a potential murderous fugitive and asking for a driver;'s license?

They had nothing more than a pickup truck as their target and then they tried to waste whoever was in the trucks.

No one is defending the actions of the cops. However, there are extenuating circumstances that explain their response. But don't let facts and circumstances get in the way of your emotional rant.

163 posted on 02/22/2013 10:33:33 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
No one is defending the actions of the cops.

You sure sound like you are.

Kewl post time: 2/22 22:33:33

164 posted on 02/22/2013 10:37:32 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: neverdem

At least they didn’t set them on fire, sheesh what do they want?


165 posted on 02/22/2013 10:37:43 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: null and void
You sure sound like you are.

You hear things? Where is the outrage against a murderous POS that left a father without a daughter, wife without a husband and two little girls without a father? Appears that is who you are defending.

166 posted on 02/22/2013 10:41:21 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Seems they let most readers assume it occurred in full light.

Seems there are many who prefer not to see the facts or have the facts presented.

Seems like you think that matters. It doesn't. Not even our military in Afghanistan get to open fire with out being fired upon.

167 posted on 02/22/2013 10:45:33 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: itsahoot
Seems like you think that matters.

Facts and accuracy do to me. It's clearly apparent that neither is to a certain block of posters here.

168 posted on 02/22/2013 10:48:19 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
No. Is it ok for a murderer to shoot at cops as long as he wrote a manifesto?

I get it. Because they were pissed it was ok to go about randomly shooting innocent people.

What Difference Does it Make?

169 posted on 02/22/2013 10:50:06 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Neither two wrongs, nor might, makes right.

A murderous madman acted like a madman.

So did a police department.

That you cannot conceive of deploring one as being anything but defending the other indicates a certain defect in your thinking process.


170 posted on 02/22/2013 10:50:43 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Alaska Wolf; null and void
From what you've posted that I've read, it would be a waste of ammo.

Beside, unlike the paper throwers, he might shoot back, right.

171 posted on 02/22/2013 10:54:44 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

What’s a CT freak?

to the point about backup, the surfer dude was t-boned and then the officer got out and shot up the vehicle.

To the chinese gals, they had several officers on scene and didn’t bother to ascertain “who” was in the vehicle.

Bottom line, they didn’t have reasonable or probable cause to use their arms.

No threat was presented and what they did, under color of law, is unlawful.

I am approaching this from a differen point of view than most on this board.

I spent 4 years as a Sheriff Explorer and went on every conceivable call and most of my ride alongs were at night.

They were on the hunt for a dangerous man, in the middle of the rest of us. Peaceful, non aggressive citizens.

LEO has the duty and oath to protect the innocent and uphold the law.

In this case, they went off half cocked and never even demanded compliance, so they could ascertain who was in the vehicle.

That’s manslaughter for you and me if we make a mistake and should be for them as well.

luckily, no one died but heck, I’d be wondering every time I saw a cop how my day or life might end after that ordeal.

As for it being dark that invites a controlled response to ensure they don’t kill an unarmed non agressor.

They absolutely should have demanded compliance.

for the Chinese gals, their backs were to the police, who had extreme advantage in that situation.

They simply opened fire.

They were looking for a 270# black man. Tiny little Chinese gals ain’t close.

As to the surfer dude again, they were looking for a 270# black man. The LEO rammed the guy, without determing who was in the vehicle and then attempted to waste him.

I have absolutely pulled over cars in Salinas when we were looking for a specific suspect and compliance was demanded of the drivers and passengers.

Upon inspection that vehicle and occupants were not the subject they were released on their merry way.

Doesn’t matter if the car is identical make and color, you ascertain who is in that vehicle and if they are the subject.

I’m getting the sense you are dismissing the cops actions as “understandable” and that is a very dangerous attitude which can only lead to “understandable” deaths at the hands of LEO who you pay to protect you.

They can’t turn the town into the OK Corral because of one guy. Otherwise we have a police state.


172 posted on 02/22/2013 11:01:41 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Alaska Wolf; null and void

FK that. One does not excuse the other or give imprimatur to kill as a matter of consequence.

Dorner was a whack job who got what he deserved.

Surely you’re not saying those cops should get a pass for nearly killing those poor people?

It makes it look as if both were on murderous sprees...


173 posted on 02/22/2013 11:05:39 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: itsahoot
I get it. Because they were pissed it was ok to go about randomly shooting innocent people.

Who claimed it was ok? Are you really that dumb?

174 posted on 02/22/2013 11:08:50 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: null and void
That you cannot conceive of deploring one

I deplore both, but the one who murdered innocent people even more. You can't seem to grasp that. Why?

175 posted on 02/22/2013 11:11:28 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Vendome

The women were Hispanic, despite the initial reports that they were Asian.


176 posted on 02/22/2013 11:16:37 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: itsahoot
Beside, unlike the paper throwers, he might shoot back, right.

Rest assured, there would be no shooting back. Do you have any empathy at all for the people left without a daughter, a husband or a father by the cold blooded, premeditated murderer, Dorner?

177 posted on 02/22/2013 11:17:18 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Oh, I dunno, who is excusing it?


178 posted on 02/22/2013 11:18:24 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

I had no idea that the surfer and the newspaper ladies were such maniacs...


179 posted on 02/22/2013 11:20:19 PM PST by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Alaska Wolf
I deplore both

Then why do you excuse the murderous actions of one?

180 posted on 02/22/2013 11:21:56 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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