Eagle Scouts: We’re Being Bullied by Gay Rights Activists

A coalition of Eagle Scouts, Scoutmasters, and parents have launched a new organization vowing to keep sex and politics out of the Boy Scouts of America.

“The Boy Scouts are one of the great jewels of American culture,” said John Stemberger, an Eagle Scout and the founder of OnMyHonor.net.

Representatives from more than a dozen states gathered in Florida to announce the opposition to any attempt to allow open homosexuality in the BSA.

The BSA is expected to offer a proposal that would remove the national rule banning open homosexuality -- and replacing it with a local option. That resolution would be voted on by the national council in May.

The announcement came as a shock to scouts and their parents, who overwhelmingly oppose the plan -- but also to a number of religious organizations who sponsor troops. About 70 percent of all troops are sponsored by church groups.

Frank Page, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Executive Committee, met with Boy Scouts Chief Executive Wayne Brock in early March -- warning him that a change in policy could result in a mass exodus of troops.

Stemberger told Fox News that the new coalition supports the current policy in Scouting. That policy, he said, allows anyone to participate -- regardless of sexual orientation. It does forbid open and aggressive promotion of homosexuality and political agendas.

“When it comes to young boys, parents have the final say on the issues of sex and politics,” Stemberger said.

He said the Boy Scouts are being bullied by gay rights activists who have a much broader agenda for the organization.

“It would be an enormous mistake if they allowed homosexuality in scouting,” he said. “They have no idea what these folks really want to do.”

Stemberger said there are already gays in scouting -- “they are discreet, they are appropriate, they are private and they don’t act out in front of kids.”

“What they want is full-blown gay activism in scouting,” he said, “and that’s what they can’t have under the current policy.”

“We think that sex and politics should stay out of Scouting,” he said. “We think that’s utterly inappropriate where boys as young as six and seven years old are being trained to be men.”

Stemberger said he hopes BSA leadership is listening to parents “rather than Madonna and Bill Gates.”

The possible change in policy has also impacted some Eagle Scouts -- like Malachi Baggett, 20, of Mississippi.

“All of a sudden they are backing away (from the policy),” he said of BSA leadership. “What does that tell me as a young man? Once it’s no longer popular, it’s okay to change your morals? Instead of basing your morals on faith, you should place them in a shifting culture? That’s extremely dangerous.”

“What kind of a message are we sending to our young people if the very leaders who are teaching Boy Scouts to be brave, cannot even find the courage to stand firm and avoid caving to peer pressure from Hollywood and political activists,” he asked.

Stemberger said the only answer to the controversy is to embrace the 2000 Supreme Court decision that ruled the BSA had a constitutional right to freedom of association.

“That’s the only way we can protect ourselves,” he said. “Otherwise, every single unit will be subjected to a legal attack. Millions of dollars will be spent on litigation. They will file lawsuits against churches, VFWs and a lot of them will abandon scouting.”

Standing against it????? Really? Why do you think the sodomites had 20 years inside schools to brainwash a whole generation with Kevin Jennings-type curricula. The people like David Kupelian and Michael Savage were never allowed on Fox News because they could articulate the evil of sodomy and they knew the history of all the homosexual cultures, like Afghanistan today and the Samurai and Ancient civilization.

The Catholic Church was infiltrated and taken over by homomafia-—you obviously didn’t read Fr. Oko’s report——the White House is controlled by sodomites-—who make our soldiers take “Pride” in sodomy now. Sodomites have controlled curricula for 20 years-—forcing little boys to take Pride in anal sex-—you don’t think ideas affect children’s worldview???????

The people I named had power over 10 years ago to stop this EVIL in its track= but they chose to ignore it.

Now, yes, they are fighting, but it is really too late now, isn’t it? The sodomites control everything now-—everything-— the White House the Republican Party , The Democrats-—remember them “booing the boy scouts” 10 years ago. They own the universities, the elementary schools, the publishing companies, the banks, google—you name it.

The leviathan has been overlooked for 20 years so they could take control of every organization-—even Christian Churches-—suppose you haven’t seen all the homosexual pastors for the last 15 years. It is nothing but a return to Pagan/Occult/Satanic cultures and it throws out the Judeo-Christian God—Natural Law and Reason and Science.

I think it is the Hegelian Dialectic. The NWO controls both sides—the Right and the Left. (We are not supposed to know that). They create the “conflict” and then they “resolve” the difference, but always moving toward the Left.

All the while, that Rush was on -—we have moved considerably to the Left. That is really troubling to me since he had a lot of power. But I never really heard him attacking sodomy.....never would for decades. He was either being controlled by his producer or he was being bribed-—we know they got him for his prescription drug use——but that could have been a warning. He might have been saying things his handlers didn’t like.

I don’t trust anyone who has been successful for 20 years—except Savage-—people who have been marginalized and banned from Fox News,etc. The Left (Alinsky people) will kill the people who attack their side in a serious way-—like (Brietbart) if they get too much power and are able to get the Truth out.

Truth is what is dangerous to the Leftists. They control the airways.

“Really? Why do you think the sodomites had 20 years inside schools to brainwash a whole generation”

As opposed to the ECLA, the Episcopal Church in america, the PC USA, the Congregationalists, etc.

The list grows ever longer of folks who actively bless and approve of gay marriage. Yet, apparently this doesn’t merit a blip on your screed of hate towards the one church that does condemn homosexuality.

So yes, I’m going to call out folks who attack their friends while giving succour to the enemy.

“The Catholic Church was infiltrated and taken over by homomafia”

Then why is she one of the few who consistantly reject homosexuality and consistantly condemn it?

“you don’t think ideas affect children’s worldview?”

I do - which is why I stand by one of the few churches that declare homosexuality as a sin, rather than those who court it and bless it.

“but they chose to ignore it.”

Which is why the Catholic church has been dealing with abuse cases that are 30+ years old. It has been dealt with. The Catholic church is no more likely to suffer abuse than any other church - in fact the ratios are less. But I don’t believe this registers with your attack the Catholic church first, ask questions later.

“but it is really too late now”

Surrender! Yet another Surrender conservative. Surrender now! Surrender before it’s too late!

I will fight. Will you fight with me or will you surrender? Choose. Stand and fight or surrender.

First of all, I am a Thomist....I love Catholic Theology. I believe in the “one, true, catholic, apostolic Church”. And YOU, if you love the Catholic Church, should love the Truth and study the Catholic canon and KNOW the Truth.

You obviously didn’t understand my post—and didn’t read Fr. Oko’s report. In case you don’t know——Pssst——there is a MAJOR war inside the Catholic Church for its very soul. I am a fan of Pope Pius X and his encyclical in 1907 “Pascendi” lays it out. Bella Dodd reports on the infiltration also....and was converted (she was a Communist) by Archbishop Fulton Sheen-—This infiltration may be why Pope Benedict resigned-—we will see. Pope Paul VI was a practicing homosexual and there are various GLARING “problems” with Vatican II, if you haven’t noticed the demise of the Catholic Church and all the scandals-—this AFTER we finally elected a Catholic President, even—and Archbishop Sheen was more popular than Milton Beryl!

Anyway, do read Fr. Oko’s report that Pope Benedict commissioned. It really says it all....Every Catholic should read it and understand it....it is why 70% of “Catholics” don’t attend mass anymore. Most Catholic Churches are rife with heresy. In fact, the US Bishops sent millions of parish dollars to ACORN and pro-”homosexual marriage” groups. MY DAD and my family was paying for ACORN and abortions and promotion of homosexuality!!!!

You want to know how mad I am at that?????????!!!!!!!! Millions of dollars—the US Bishops gave intentionally to these EVIL organizations.

BTW—I was writing to Notre Dame where my son attended because they were featuring that ugly evil play glorifying Lesbian rape of a girl and objectifying women’s bodies with vulgar words, and which was hateful of men-—V-Monologues. They gave it a platform anyway-—that evil bast*rds who should have been fired and kicked out of the Church. I also wrote when they featured the baby killer Zero.....Evil to do that....blurs Right and Wrong—Catholic Church has to be clear—Never support evil. Never.

It is an outrage what so called “Catholic” universities (one of my sons attended Boston College also) have been doing for 50 years and calling themselves “Catholic” -—as the SSPX has noted and other conservative groups. You have to face Truth-—when the Church is doing evil, you have to call them on it. They are corrupting the faith, destroying the Church from within and millions of children.

The Church will survive-—I know-—but as Pope Benedict stated-—the filth has to be expelled even if it means we become a much smaller group like in St. Augustine’s time.....Fr. Oko explains what he is talking about in this article which was just published in English recently.

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/02/fr-dariusz-okos-major-article-with-pope.html

“I am a fan of Pope Pius X”

Which explains why you are attacking the Church. It’s sad. Really it is. I understand the desire to reform the church, but it never can be done without obedience to the present head of the church.

“He who does gather with me, scatters”.

“Every Catholic should read it and understand it....it is why 70% of “Catholics” don’t attend mass anymore”

Right, and it has nothing to do with people preferring to keep to their own conscience rather than wilfull submission to God and his Church. I see. People latch onto whatever excuse they can that conforms with their own desire to be their own master and not a servant to God.

I have seen it, and frankly - if your argument is that we should be looking towards the folks who cannot accept obedience, then those are the people who we need to let go so they can go to whatever protestant church will accept them without challenging (and affirming), their faith in themselves as primary.

The better question is why they haven’t left rather than why they have. I have met a great deal of actual practicing Catholics. I haven’t met a single one of them that has cited the current ‘scandal’ as a significant part of their faith.

I have, without a single exception - seen every ex-Catholic latch onto the abuse as an excuse for why they left. When pressed, I have also, without a single exception discovered that the true cause is that they believe they are right and the Church is wrong.

Your logic is faulty......you talk about “obedience” to the pope and you marginalize Pope Pius X and say he was “full of it” It is sad that YOU are so irrational. Do read Fr. Oko’s resport-—that was commissioned by a pope who RESIGNED-—so, the pope thought it was essential for the “soul” of the Catholic Church WHEN HE WAS ACTING POPE. Do you really think that Satan wouldn’t target the Catholic Church, if it is the one true Church??????

I am a Thomist. I cannot stand Hegelian “thinking” which is so irrational it makes my head spin.

You really haven’t studied the Church and understand the corruption of popes—during the Medici and “Reformation” and other periods, have you. Catholics need to be educated in Theology and, yes, obedience is important but the fact that there are anti-popes is a fact and provable.

The heresies in the post-Vatican mass is legend. It is why you have Lesbian nuns advocating women “priests”. Or do you “think” that is an accident???? The paganism and protestantism in the mass now, with all the glad-handing during transubstantiation is revolting. The “nuns” outfits are disgusting and disrespectful. The priests avoidance of “saving souls” and the “social justice” crowd is Marxism—anathema to Catholicism.

I took Latin in school—I understand the mystery and awe inspired by the Latin Mass and the importance of Tradition to human beings (which is erased by Marxism) and the ugly slippery slope which Vatican II put the Church on-—as indeed, thousands of priests who quit the Church understood the insidious evil of the lack of clarity—which was always evident in the Canon of the Church until Vatican II.

Blind loyalty is NOT Catholicism— with no ability to reason— will lead you off the cliff. We were given an intellect for a reason by God-—God expects us to use it, and not be sheep, if we are led by a wolf. To deny there have been evil popes is to deny history and live in a fantasy. It is evil.

“you talk about “obedience” to the pope and you marginalize Pope Pius X and say he was “full of it””

I never said anything about Pope Pius X. I have plenty to say about the SSPX, an organization that has no ties to him even as they use his name. And to their adherents.

“Do you really think that Satan wouldn’t target the Catholic Church, if it is the one true Church??????”

Yes, I don’t believe that attacking the Church you are a part of is helping things. Yes, I’m aware there are many who are fighting Satan within the Church - but the solution is to stay inside and keep fighting rather than further subdivision of the Body.

“You really haven’t studied the Church and understand the corruption of popes—during the Medici and “Reformation” and other periods, have you. Catholics need to be educated in Theology and, yes, obedience is important but the fact that there are anti-popes is a fact and provable.”

Yes, I have. which is why I’m an ex protestant and you are a neo protestant. Where are the protestants in standing in opposition to gay marriage? Again - look at the ECUSA, the PCUSA, the ECLA and the United Methodists - all supporting sodomy. Yet - there the Church does not and stands firm as she always has.

Is the Church perfect in her body? No, not at all, but she is perfect in her doctrine. At the head - Christ. Christ is not a bigamist. He has only one bride.

“The heresies in the post-Vatican mass is legend.”

The Novus Ordo is a part of the Church and those who refuse to accept this are no more a part of the Body than the aforementioned Episcopalians. They reject Trent just as you reject Vatican II.

“It is why you have Lesbian nuns advocating women “priests”.”

Again, look at the ECUSA. Is that what you want for yourself? Think carefully. It was the same motivation of Luther for reform that he divided the body. What makes you think this time it will be different?

“The paganism and protestantism in the mass now, with all the glad-handing during transubstantiation is revolting. The “nuns” outfits are disgusting and disrespectful. The priests avoidance of “saving souls” and the “social justice” crowd is Marxism—anathema to Catholicism.”

Then why are you taking the protestant solution and church shopping? The Catholic solution is the same as St. Francis of Assisi - Francis holding up the Church. We need all the good men and women we can get. To stay in communion rather than dividing the body.

“I took Latin in school—I understand the mystery and awe inspired by the Latin Mass and the importance of Tradition”

Indeed. TLM is essential also to the proper functioning of the Church. However - tradition also states that obedience to the Magisterium is the core as to why the TLM works. TLM doesn’t wag the magisterium - the magisterium conducts TLM.

“Blind loyalty is NOT Catholicism”

Obedience to the magisterium is not blind. The Novus Ordo, properly conducted, is a valid mass.

“To deny there have been evil popes is to deny history and live in a fantasy. It is evil.”

To deny that the Church, in her doctrine is perfect is to deny being Catholic.

You are still irrational. I told you I was a Thomist....I support the very canon of The Catholic Church. It ISN”T supposed to change-—willy nilly, on “feelings to be popular” like all the US Catholic Bishops with their twisting of “truth” like Cardinal Dolan’s lie about division inside the Church and giving the abortionist Zero a Catholic platform, and the pillsbury boy actually shouting out praise to that evil Biden, in Church, no less. How vile. I have no respect for Cardinal Dolan—because he has no respect for Canon Law. Cover-up and lies are anathema to the Church, even when done by “cardinals”.

I want the Catholic Church to remain the Catholic Church and throw out all the Protestantism/Marxism,—that “reform” after VII-— that the infiltration which Bella Dodd wrote about and Pope Pius X wrote about, which took fruition.

You are defending the “Protestant Reformation” in the 60’s which virtually was the step to hell for the Catholic Church and ejection of thousands of year of Tradition-—how evil, how Marxist. “By their fruits, you will know them.”
You can take that literally, since so many fruits invaded and raped the boys.

You ignore Fr. Oko’s report about the need to clean out the evil corruption inside the Church. Hmmmm.....since when is Truth not important to the laity.

The Canon is perfect-—yes, I support it-—but will never support heretical bishops who rape boys and treat the mass like a circus, think girls are interchangeable with boys to confuse little kids and confuse sexual identity formation, cover up corruption and give Millions of dollars to organizations which support abortion and SSM.

It is evil to support evil, even if they are people who call themselves “Catholic Bishops”. Nope, it is supporting evil/lies and I will condemn them, as you need to, You have to hold them accountable for their evil.

You talk about “REFORM” and claim I’M one of the “modernists” that St. Pius X condemned????? Think again. Vatican II was the “reform” which led to heresy and error.

Those heresies that are now rampant among the Bishops who defy the Pope and ignore him have to be corrected or ejected-—the Protestantism that occurs-—occurred because of Vatican II and its blurring of the Truth.

You don’t answer about the Catholic Universities that defy the Pope either. I support the Canon and write to them to obey Catholic teaching and the magisterium and quit corrupting our youth with lies-—yet, I’M the disobedient one.....Ha!

“I want the Catholic Church to remain the Catholic Church and throw out all the Protestantism/Marxism,—that “reform” after VII”

What you want is no different than what Luther, Calvin and Zwingli wanted after Trent. Vatican II is legitimate.

“I have no respect for Cardinal Dolan”

Funny how your quarrel is with the orthodox who resist both abortion and gay marriage.

“You ignore Fr. Oko’s report about the need to clean out the evil corruption inside the Church.”

Not so. I acknowledge that it was Benedict who worked fiercely to remove what he could. I have argued that reform can and will come - from within - just as it did with the Counter Reformation - “St. Francis holding up the Church”.

“but will never support heretical bishops who rape boys and treat the mass like a circus, think girls are interchangeable with boys to confuse little kids and confuse sexual identity formation, cover up corruption and give Millions of dollars to organizations which support abortion and SSM.”

All things you will not find in Vatican II. I agree, these things should be uprooted, but we will never root out what is unneeded by throwing out things which are needed.

“claim I’M one of the “modernists” that St. Pius X condemned?????”

Insofar as you believe that you yourself is the ultimate authority and continue to stay out of communion with the Church? Absolutely. SSPX is one of the strongest forces of modernity in appealing to conservativism, without all the nasty bits of obedience and acceptance of the authority of the Magisterium.

St. Pius X would be horrified to see his name attached to schismatics seeking to air their greivances with Rome. Fellay - illicitely consecrated, consecrates others just as Luther et al did centuries ago. But that doesn’t bother you?

“You don’t answer about the Catholic Universities that defy the Pope either.”

Require them to comply with the catechism or cut them off if they refuse. All of them. Same as with Fellay and everyone affilied with SSPX. Comply with Vatican II or leave.

You so love heresy, don’t you, and try to say I AM THE heretic. I do not want to throw out any valid Catholic Canon. Can you understand that-—I want to root out the evil-—just what Pope Benedict stated needed to be done.

What kind of Catholic are you, accusing me when you have no understanding of what I think....you ignore much of what I say.

—when I am a Thomist!!!!! He is the Father of Catholic Theology and NO-ONE was more Reasoned than St. Thomas.

Vatican II destroyed the Catholic Church to a LARGE extent-—that is obvious. I suppose you think a 70% drop in attendance was never significant with all the circus-like, Protestant-type glad-handing with little girl altar girls to emasculate the Church and confuse children and make men and women interchangeable to lead to “women Priests” and drive out males. You should see the lack of males in my Catholic parish. It is pathetic with the hand holding Kumbaya....creepy, pagan irreverent celebrations.

Did you ever read Bella Dodd’s book—the woman who was converted by Abp. Sheen???? You may be unaware of the heresies........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWsgxCVYtAI

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