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Oooops! Someone has some 'splaining to do.
1 posted on 04/05/2013 1:05:05 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Malone LaVeigh

This will be buried.


2 posted on 04/05/2013 1:09:06 PM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Who is this mysterious “Someone”?

The Governor?
Senators?
Representatives?

Most of them are pretty well insulated because the next election is in 2014. That is plenty of time for them to cook up a reason for the low information voter (Now the majority in Calirado) to blame anyone and everyone except the ruling majority.

3 posted on 04/05/2013 1:11:39 PM PDT by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
GOTTA HIDE THE TRUTH & RUSH THEIR LEGISLATION THROUGH! DO THE RIGHT THING COLORADO, REMOVE THE RATS!
4 posted on 04/05/2013 1:15:58 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
The families, friends, acquaintances, doctors, counselors, law enforcement officials, courts, schools know who these nutbags are before they go on their shooting sprees. Which of them is going to come forward and admit it, lest they put themselves in criminal or civil jeopardy? If you could get the knotheads institutionalized more easily, many of these rampages would not occur. But go ask the ACLU or any other Loony Left organization what they think of that idea...
5 posted on 04/05/2013 1:16:38 PM PDT by twister881
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To: Malone LaVeigh
court documents revealed that the mass shooting in Aurora that killed 12 and injured 70 more could have been prevented by law enforcement

Nonsense. All they could have done was question him. If he acted weird enough possibly commit him for a limited time for observation.

Then he's back out and really ticked off.

How exactly is this an improvement?

All of these "prevent mass shootings by locking up the nuts" ideas would probably require warehousing thousands or tens of thousands of odd people who have committed no crimes in order to catch the one mass killer.

They're the pro-gun side equivalent of gun control. A theoretically simple solution to a complex problem that just will not work.

6 posted on 04/05/2013 1:18:35 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Guess it did not fit the AGENDA desired.


7 posted on 04/05/2013 1:21:07 PM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
All the police did was cut off his access card. University authorities lied in their initial statement and claimed Holmes' access was cut off because he was dis-enrolling. Not so - they cut him off because of this report. But they didn't do anything else.

Both Holmes and Ebel should not have been on the streets and the only thing that would have kept them from killing was getting them off the streets. And it was government screw-ups and failures to act that put them out there.

8 posted on 04/05/2013 1:22:02 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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“Police have testified to having no contact with Holmes before the shooting. Why exactly was that? The complaint/warning from Fenton should have prompted police to make sure Holmes wasn’t a threat to Fenton, at the very least. Had they performed that standard follow-up — and remember, this was a mental health professional telling the police that her patient was both homicidal and threatening her specifically — the police might well have had Holmes in custody long before the shooting.”

Law enforcement is reactive. To get arrested before committing a crime is almost unheard of. There are special stalker statutes, but that’s the exception. Remember the movie The Minority Report? If I recall, that was about a police unit that arrested murderers before they committed murder. Do we want that? We do have something in Florida called The Baker Act. Any official can arrest you if they judge you are a threat to yourself or others. But then the state has to take care of you; which is expensive. So it’s not often used. You have to really be nutso to get Baker Acted. Incarceration usually lasts 2 weeks. Two weeks would not have deterred this assailant.

Even if the doctor had a signed “I’m-gonna-kill-you” note, chances are they would have done nothing.


9 posted on 04/05/2013 1:22:23 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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10 posted on 04/05/2013 1:22:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
In the old Soviet Union, dissidents were considered “insane” and could be committed indefinitely for psychiatric treatment. The rationale was that the state had created a workers’ paradise and any person who was not happy in paradise had to be crazy. I also learned that a psychiatric test was required to obtain a drivers license.

Pardon my cynicism when I see articles such as the one posted. Doesn't it suggest that psychiatrists should have the final word on who is permitted to own a firearm? Doesn't it suggest a psychiatric examination as a precondition for gun ownership? Who is to design, administer and record such tests?

Of course, if one patron had been armed, it is possible that a few grains of well placed lead would have restored mental balance to the shooter.

14 posted on 04/05/2013 1:30:46 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Charles Whitman told a University of Texas psychiatrist that he "...felt the urge to start shooting people with a deer rifle."

I don't pretend to know the answers to the dilemma this kind of thing puts doctors in, or how to reconcile it with RKBA (which I'm very firmly committed to) and other civil liberties that we all treasure. It's perplexing. I only posted that fact because it came to my mind when I read the article.

16 posted on 04/05/2013 1:42:36 PM PDT by VR-21 (I'm weary of being lorded over by criminals and gilded degenerates.)
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21 posted on 04/05/2013 1:50:46 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Why would campus police even have any jurisdiction here? It seems like the equivalent of reporting a rape at work to the security at the front desk.. Sure, it might be a nice thing to do, but it wouldn’t replace going to the real authorities.

Are colleges independent nations, like Indian tribes—or what?


31 posted on 04/05/2013 2:22:32 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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