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The Benghazi Scandal Grows (Long article)
TWS ^ | May 20, 2013 | Stephen Hayes

Posted on 05/10/2013 6:01:13 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: binreadin
Two nights ago Issa claimed to Greta on FOX that a 4-star general had been sent as a “babysitter” for the State Dept. during phases of the Benghazi investigation.

Here is the uncut version of the interview of what you are talking about

Uncut: Issa on Benghazi whistle-blower hearing

81 posted on 05/10/2013 10:28:36 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: onyx
Oh dear, I may blow a gasket if I read something in Salon, they make me so mad!!! :)

I do like this part:

and Free Republic provided a platform for conservatives to share conspiratorial perspectives and to organize their own rallies and events. Many of the angry mobs hounding Clinton at public events were mobilized by Free Republic. The impeachment rally that was organized by the Free Republic, “Treason Is the Reason,” featured Republican lawmakers and writer Christopher Hitchens.

Although I think it's funny that they say conservatives dominate the media. We still don't yet dominate TV news or newspapers. And even though some call newspapers the "dinosaur" media, there are still a lot of people who read them. And believe them. Unfortunately.(My elderly mom, for one, who I have to continually, respectfully and gently correct on things she reads in the paper.)

Hmmm. Maybe it's time for some rallies and protests - this time in front of major media outlets!!! And have people post on Youtube and have college kids post on their facebooks. You get it going on facebook it will get passed from one to another college kid and will spread like crazy. hmmm.....

82 posted on 05/10/2013 10:29:20 AM PDT by boxlunch
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To: onyx; Kaslin

Your very welcome. :-)

One more part of hearing testimony about the stand-down orders ....(and Hillary’s call to Hicks.and Obama’s call to Hicks).
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ISSA: I thank the gentleman.

We now go to the gentleman from Florida, Mr. Desantis.

DESANTIS: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I think this is an important hearing. It really does make all the difference to me to know whether we did all we could to aid our brethren who are in harm’s way. I think it’s part of our military ethos. I think it’s part of our national character.

Mr. Hicks, I just — just to go back and get this — you know, even though you believed help was needed, there was a soft unit — special operations unit ordered to stand down, correct?

HICKS: Yes.

DESANTIS: And even though you thought air support was needed, there was no air support sent?

HICKS: No air support was sent.

DESANTIS: So, no A.C. 130 gun ships, no fighter planes, right?

HICKS: A.C. 130 gun ships were never mentioned to me. Only fighter planes out of Aviano.

DESANTIS: And, in fact, there was no request for air space other than the UAV request to the Libyan government, right?.

HICKS: Yes, and that preceded the attack, if I’m not mistaken.

DESANTIS: So, when the order to stand down was given, who issued that order? Were you told? Did Lieutenant Colonel Gibson tell you who was ultimately responsible for issuing that order?

HICKS: He did not identify the person.

DESANTIS: OK, so you don’t know if it was the combatant commander?

HICKS: I — I do not know.

DESANTIS: Or whether it was the secretary of Defense or the president, correct?

HICKS: I have no idea.

DESANTIS: And have you, since this incident has happened and you’ve been interviewed, have you been enlightened as to who was ultimately responsible for issuing the stand down order?

HICKS: I think you — that the right person to pose that question to is Lieutenant Colonel Gibson.

DESANTIS: When you spoke with Secretary Clinton at 2:00 A.M., did she express support for giving military assistance to those folks in Benghazi? I.e., did she say that she would request such support from either the secretary of Defense or the president of the United States?

HICKS: We actually didn’t discuss that issue. At the time, we were focused on trying to find, and hopefully rescue, Ambassador Stephens. That was the primary purpose of our discussion. The secondary purpose was to talk about what we were going to do in Tripoli in order to enhance our security there.

DESANTIS: So as part of that discussion, though, you informed her that you guys in Benghazi were, in fact, under attack, correct?

HICKS: The attack in Benghazi — she was aware of the attacks, but were in phase three. The attacks had already — the first two attacks had been completed, it was a — and there was a lull in Benghazi at the time.

So — and again, the focus was on finding Ambassador Stephens, and what the second — or the Tripoli response team was going to do.

We had at that time no expectation that there would be subsequent attacks at — at our annex in Benghazi.

DESANTIS: So you — it was under your — you viewed it as secured at that point?

HICKS: No, we knew the situation was in flux.

DESANTIS: OK.

When you spoke to the president following the attack on the phone, did he say anything about deploying assets, whether — why assets were not deployed?

HICKS: I believe I spoke to him on September 17th or September 18th, so...

DESANTIS: Right, after the attack. I know this was several days later.

Did he say anything, or was it just to commend you about your service?

HICKS: It was just a call to thank me for service...

DESANTIS: OK.

Well...

HICKS: ... and praise the whole team.

DESANTIS: I appreciate that. I think that this has been a good hearing. I think that there are still questions remaining. I think we need to know who actually gave the order to stand down. I’d like to know why you’ve been demoted, why they — the secretary’s chief of staff called you and spoke to you the way she did.

And so with that, I’ll yield...

ISSA: Would the gentleman yield to...

DESANTIS: The Chairman? Thank you, committee chairman.

ISSA: Always the right answer, thank you.

Mr. Hicks, 2:00 in the morning, the secretary of state calls you personally. Not a common call.

HICKS: No, sir.

ISSA: Did she ask you about the cause of the attack? Did she ask you about the cause of the attack? Did she ask about videos? Did she ask about anything at all that would have allowed you to answer the question of how Benghazi came to be attacked, as far as you knew?

HICKS: I don’t recall that being part of the conversation.

ISSA: So she wasn’t interested in the cause of the attack, and this was the only time you talked directly to the secretary, where you could have told her or not told her about the cause of the attack?

HICKS: It was the — yes, that was the only time when I could have. But again, I had already reported that the attack was — had commenced and that twitter feeds were asserting that Ansar Sharia was responsible for the attack.

ISSA: You didn’t have that discussion with her only because it was assumed that, since you had already reported that the cause of the attack was essentially Islamic extremists, some of them linked to al- Qaida?

HICKS: Yes.

ISSA: Thank you. I thank the gentleman.

DESANTIS (?): OK. The gentleman — does the gentleman yield back?

The gentleman yields back.

We now probably go to a second round, starting with Mr. Jordan.


83 posted on 05/10/2013 10:31:12 AM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: thouworm

Sen. Graham challenges Joint Chiefs chairman on Benghazi testimony

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., issued a sharp and unusual challenge to the truthfulness of the nation’s top uniformed military commander on Thursday, demanding that U.S. Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, return to Capitol Hill to provide fresh testimony on the Benghazi attacks.

The point of contention involved whether any military officers issued an order to U.S. armed forces personnel on the night of Sept. 11, when the U.S. consulate and a nearby annex came under terrorist attack, to “stand down” from providing assistance.

“I asked [Gen. Dempsey] directly,” Graham said in an exclusive interview with Fox News. “Were there any military assets in motion, to help folks in Benghazi, [that were] told to stand down? And what did [State Department whistleblower] Greg Hicks say? That Lt. Col. [Steve] Gibson — a DOD employee, a member of the Army — was in Tripoli, ready and willing to go to Benghazi, preparing to go to Benghazi, and was told to stand down.”

“Clearly,” Graham added, “our chairman of the Joint Chiefs’ rendition that no one was told to stand down is now in question.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/09/sen-graham-challenges-joint-chiefs-chairman-on-benghazi-testimony/#ixzz2Subpz0Mm


84 posted on 05/10/2013 10:32:59 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: thouworm

I have bookmarked this thread.

Thank so much, again, dearest thouworm!


86 posted on 05/10/2013 10:49:35 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: boxlunch

Per Rush this morning, the dam may be leaking or breaking. I’m cynical because we have been down this road so many times before with a collective ‘meh’ from the media and public.

I sincerely hope my cynicism is misplaced and wrong...


87 posted on 05/10/2013 10:56:33 AM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: boxlunch

I have not posted in quite some time....just disgusted frankly.

In 2013, I said of his re-election that we are all Benghazi now. BHO has no respect for the life of any American. As for HRC, her disdain for the military was known long ago. While BO has been destroying us domestically, she has tried to destroy us on the global front.

When we look back at our political landscape, HRC has had her nose in everything since 1991. She had her nose in the downfall of the American president in 1974. Enough!!!! Just say NO to 2016!

As for their sheep, they best wake up and realize that they are all Benghazi now, they are Ft. Hood, they are Boston. And they are Newton...because it meets the agenda. Sometimes it takes the loss of a life dear to them in these tragedies in order for to them to discover the truth about their shepherds. A few in Boston have had their “watershed” moment. Still, many will continue their blind following as they are cut from the same anti American cloth as their supposed leaders.

As for us who know better....We will NOT be Benghazi!!!
And the media must hear us loud and clear. That is where the pressure needs to be. The media is our biggest clear and present danger next to academia. The media foisted this disaster upon us. The media is cut from the same anti-American cloth as the leaders they chose for us.

We can keep pressuring the media to report the truth. The scam. The corruption. The deceit. The malice. The lust for power to continue the downfall of everyting decent about America. When not pressuring the media, we can educate others. Tell them to do their homework. Tell them to turn off Hollywood, American Idol, sports, etc....tell them they are Benghazi!!!! They are no longer immune from a terrorist threat. If faced in a terror attack will their rescuers be told to stand down for someone’s political gain?

Most of all, pray and seek God’s mercy upon our land and His people. Ultimately He is our only real hope.


88 posted on 05/10/2013 11:26:16 AM PDT by del4hope (Jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail against His church. Know Him, be His church.)
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To: boxlunch
The impeachment rally that was organized by the Free Republic, “Treason Is the Reason,” featured Republican lawmakers and writer Christopher Hitchens.

This is when I originally became a member of FR under a different name

89 posted on 05/10/2013 11:29:28 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: nikos1121
Do we have anyone...anyone in this God Forsaken government, (and media) of ours who can stand up to these people who are controlling our lives as though we are cattle?

We had three of 'em on Wednesday. Maybe their bravery through all the threats and intimidation from the regime will inspire others to come forward. Even if all this doesn't result in an indictment of Hillary (forget Obama.. he's untouchable), the truth still has to get out there.

90 posted on 05/10/2013 11:33:14 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: expat2
Any ‘soldier’ who gets as high as Petraeus did is a politician more than he is a soldier.

Huh?

You are out of your mind nubie

91 posted on 05/10/2013 11:33:40 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: del4hope
As for their sheep, they best wake up and realize that they are all Benghazi now, they are Ft. Hood, they are Boston. And they are Newton

And they are also the next American population center that sustains a terror attack.

92 posted on 05/10/2013 11:35:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: del4hope
Beautifully said. ----------------

And the media must hear us loud and clear. That is where the pressure needs to be. The media is our biggest clear and present danger next to academia. The media foisted this disaster upon us. The media is cut from the same anti-American cloth as the leaders they chose for us. ------------------

Those in the media need to take this to heart. I know many at the top are servants of "The Father of Lies"... but aren't there a few who are still uncorrupted? Sherly Atkinson has bravely reported the truth on both Fast and Furious and Benghazi. Surely there are others? What about boards of directors of the major media outlets. Are all the major stockholders flaming liberals? We have got to do something about the incessant lying going on, and maybe in one swoop bring about the downfall of a couple of these. I believe that if just one of the major media decided to start doing the right thing, they would have people flocking to them because it would expose the corruption at the others. But if they do, then they as much as admit they've been in on it this whole time.

If one board of directors at CBS, NBC or ABC were to fire the top executive at their network and make an announcement that they have become aware that the news has not been accurately reported and that they intend to correct the problem, and then let it be known to journalists that you had BETTER find out the truth and report on it.... Just one is all it would take to begin unraveling the web of lies and deception that has been going on for years.

I'm sure that's why libs are in such a tizzy about the Koch brothers buying out LA Times.

Well, I'm still open to any suggestions on actions we can take to get this more and more in front of people, and not just allow to stand the lies the ABCNBCPRAVDA decide to use as their latest spin control...

93 posted on 05/10/2013 11:41:12 AM PDT by boxlunch
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To: thouworm

Thanks for all the transcripts


94 posted on 05/10/2013 11:44:21 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: tips up

It’s easy to get cynical but we have to be better and braver and stronger than that. We have to keep fighting.
NEVER GIVE UP
NEVER GIVE UP
NEVER
NEVER
NEVER GIVE UP!!!!

:)


95 posted on 05/10/2013 11:44:29 AM PDT by boxlunch
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To: boxlunch

We must never forget that the father of lies is a mere prince of the world, the one who is always seeking a coup against the King of Kings.

The King’s followers must defend Him against those who follow the prince. There are going to be many spiritual battles, but we have been assured of our King’s ultimate victory. The prince will never defeat the King.

The battles are only here on this earth. No such prince in our eternal home. Alleluia.


96 posted on 05/10/2013 12:02:31 PM PDT by del4hope (Jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail against His church. Know Him, be His church.)
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To: MestaMachine

MM: Don’t miss this one for a Benghazi ping.

The posts include many transcript excerpts from the Benghazi hearing-—especially, transcripts about the stand-down orders.


97 posted on 05/10/2013 12:26:13 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
Late to this one. Important enough to ping anyway.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


98 posted on 05/10/2013 12:31:00 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: thouworm

Thank you, Kiddo.


99 posted on 05/10/2013 12:32:04 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: boxlunch

You are so right. Thanks for posting


100 posted on 05/10/2013 12:37:35 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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