“NSA-does not need court authorization to listen to domestic phone calls.” ]
Yea and cops don’t have to show up to crimes in progress either including rape.
They don’t need our permission to do what they want
and they can’t be held accountable for what they do.
Sorry folks but tyranny has officially been established in
the United States.
Massive tax revolt. It’s the only way out this side of the unthinkable.
That authorization appears to extend to e-mail and text messages too.
The Freepers who want Snowden hung from the nearest tree going to demand Nadler be hung also for revealing this?
bump to the top!!!!
Anyone surprised by this? Anyone at all? No?
Didn ‘t snowmen say that this was just the tip of the iceberg????
So how long before Nadler claims he misunderstood what he heard or that what he said was taken out of context?
I’m sure the NSA is careful - it’s not like they would allow 29 year old high school drop outs to listen in on the Presidents conversations or the Supreme Courts calls... Oh wait - ummm never
mind.
We're about a century past the time for reigning in.
I wonder how many FReepers are on that target list? (Yeah, my gut says "all of us.")
Well, there goes the “metadata” lie.
They are above the Constitution...And both houses of Congress are in on it along with the Judiciary...
The news has been out there for years...Half the people don't care and the other half (or far less) even on FR have been in denial for a long, long time...
McCain is in on it...Romney is in on it...And yet we have FReepers who supported both of those traitors in the primaries...
The intent of this great site is to help restore our Nation back to a Constitutional Republic and yet it is loaded with people who love NAFTA, the WTO, the New World Order and on and on...
i think you are stating it very, very mildly.
What happened to the war-hardened Veterans from WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, Persion Gulf, Iraq, Aftganiscrap, Grenada, and every other shit hole you sacrificed for? Was it really just about your buds? You now want to just grow old and hope the VA or someone will take care of you?
I'm a simple nothing aviation ex-sailor of 11 years and waiting for leadership. Where are you guys? What? Talking war stories at the local American Legion post? Or the local Viet Nam Veterans post? Or writing books? Where the hell are you guys? I'm waiting to follow orders.
I've got maybe 5 years left and will gladly be cannon fodder, but you guys (warriors) have given up. Yeah, I know it's easy for me to say...so make me wrong. Where the hell are you??? Are you ever going to stand tall again and remember your friggin Oath? The barbarians are at the gate. Deal with it or know in your heart you might have been a warrior once, but now you're a slave.
“This government needs to be reined in. “”
HAHAHAHAHAHA, understatement of the century. This is not government, this is a full-scale assault on America from the enemy within.
I still can’t comprehend the BIRDBRAINS who consider themselves “conservatives” who think this NSA crap is anything but the tyranny it is.
I hope Dennis Prager and Michael Medved (as well as many talk show host “back benchers”) pull their heads from their rectums any day now.
Though this leak might seem detrimental to the NSA, it is necessary step in the creation of a surveillance blackmail state.
To explain; there is suspicion with a kernel of doubt, and then there is knowing for certain. As a hypothetical, let’s say that a certain Supreme Court Justice receives a call in the middle of the night about his gay past or an illegal adoption. In that Justice’s mind, there is always the chance that the information leaked from someone close to him. Maybe that person doesn’t *really* know — maybe they have just heard rumors.
But now, our elected officials know that their secrets are known. There is no doubt. There is no hope that an affair be kept private. There’s no comforting oneself with the delusion that the total surveillance state is just a Hollywood exaggeration.
The NSA gains a tremendous amount of power with this exposure. It’s a little like a cop on a subway pulling off the coat of a suspect only to reveal the suspect has a bomb vest and his hand on the trigger(hello NSA, BTW). Sure, the suspect has been exposed, but who is in the position of power? The guy with the bomb.
The NSA is the guy with his finger on the trigger, and our entire nation is being held hostage.
This is non-news. This would only be a concern if an R was in office. This is a responsible administration so this would never be abused. /s
I think I speak for all FREEopers when I say that they can’t listen to your phone if you are dead and what is invading your privacy and stomping on your 4th amendment rights compared to being killed by terrorists.
I think I speak for all FReepers when I say give the government more power to keep me safe. We value safety over anything. 9/11 safety, security! Keep us safe even if it means inserting a rectal probe to read our thoughts to make sure we aren’t terrorists and jihadists!
What’s freedom or liberty when you’re dead? I think the founding fathers swaid something like “safety and security mena you’re still alive.”
Maybe we should ask them to put us in security cages in safety camps and momnitor us all day long so the evil doers don’t get to us. They could come out from under my bed.
I think I speak for all FReepers when I say I fear what the government tells me to fear and think what the government tells me to think because I don’t hate America first and I don’t want an Islamofascist to grab me from under my bed.
The paid pundits are going to politicize and vilify Snowden and hedge this issue until the public forgets why they are pxssed. They’ll be a new Voice show or some other sports championship to follow and take our minds off of the trivia of a government of thieves.
The PTB knows this and they will bend the story and public opinion by dividing and conquering politically. The Democrats want to protect their brand and the Republican-E wants to protect their corporate brand too because it started under Bush. True Tea Partiers understand that this policy is a means to neuter and destroy the democracy because it gives the power to pick and chose to the elites. Huckabee was one who said as much.
The D/R Parties’ main mission is to keep only 2 Parties and this will make this easy. No more challengers to the system because they have all the goods on everyone who attempts to cross them.