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Professor Richard Dawkins embroiled in Twitter row over Muslim comments
The Telegraph ^ | Aug 8, 2013 | Alice Philipson

Posted on 08/08/2013 9:43:35 PM PDT by Kip Russell

Richard Dawkins has been forced to defend controversial comments he made online after saying the last time Muslims contributed something worthwhile was during the Middle Ages.

Prof Dawkins, the bestselling author of The God Delusion, wrote on Twitter that all the world's Muslims had won fewer Nobel Prizes than Trinity College, Cambridge. He went on to argue that although Muslims were responsible for many achievements during the Dark Ages, including alchemy and algebra, their contribution since then was questionable.

His comments sparked outrage from many high-profile writers and journalists including author Caitlin Moran and Channel 4 News Economics Editor Faisal Islam.

Moran tweeted: "it's time someone turned Richard Dawkins off and then on again. Something's gone weird." Writing on Twitter on Thursday, Prof Dawkins said: "All the world's Muslims have fewer Nobel Prizes than Trinity College, Cambridge. They did great things in the Middle Ages, though."

While in response to another Twitter user who wrote that Muslims were responsible for alchemy and algebra, he replied: "Indeed, where would we be without alchemy? Dark Age achievements undoubted. But since then?"

He later tried to justify his comments by saying he talked about the number of Muslim prize winners because we often hear "boasts about their total numbers".

He wrote: "Why mention Muslim Nobels rather than any other group? Because we so often hear boasts about (a) their total numbers and (b) their science."

He added: "A statement of simple fact is not bigotry".

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: caitlinmoran; dawkins; dhimmitude; faisalislam; godsgravesglyphs; islam; nobelprizes; religionofpieces; richarddawkins; thegoddelusion; twitter; unitedkingdom; waronterror
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To: HomeAtLast
The phenomenon of the “good German” is like Spanish flu, which didn’t start in Spain and wasn’t limited to Spain. We’re all susceptible to some degree.

True enough. That's why I used the term "good German" to describe those Muslims (typically not German) who may be decent people on a personal level, but who tacitly support, enable or at least fail to oppose the horror of Muslim rule, its expansion through the use of force, and the imposition of Sharia law.

61 posted on 08/09/2013 6:20:53 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: Maceman

I hope I didn’t sound like I was correcting you. Just making a general observation.
Regarding the horrors of muslim rule, lately I’ve been helping a pal with a website about the Armenian genocide, which will soon be at the 100-year mark. Over a million deliberately exterminated by a muslim government. It had the hallmarks of Holocaust, the savagery, the deliberateness, the numbers. Yet the US government still avoids the subject and the Turkish government still denies it.


62 posted on 08/09/2013 6:32:29 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: Vinnie

Dawkins is in a wheelchair? Since when?

Or did you mean Stephen Hawking?


63 posted on 08/09/2013 7:07:39 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Kip Russell
I have to give Dawkins some credit here. Most atheist liberals limit their "atheism" to attacks on Christianity, or rather, to Christianity practiced by westerners. For some reason, their rationalism takes second seat to the cult of multicultural "diversity."

Therefore, Islam and other religions practiced by third world people are usually exempt for reasons of political correctness (and because unlike "bigoted" white Christians, Muslims behead people and blow things up for perceived slights).

64 posted on 08/09/2013 7:43:44 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Chaguito
“Muslims STOLE algebra, they didn’t invent it.” That’s absolutely the message I got from my Indian students in my high school classes. One gave me an essay she had written proving the case. But I’ve lost it.

"Muslim Learning" consisted of taking the knowledge of societies they conquered. When Muslims stopped being able to conquer, their societies decayed.

65 posted on 08/09/2013 7:50:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Kip Russell

Not long ago atheists were bemoaning the fact that Christian Europe didn’t get overrun by the “superior islamic civilization” during the middle ages. Atheists would lament about backward Christendom prevailing over the scientifically advanced and socially liberated islamic world.


66 posted on 08/09/2013 8:04:43 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Blennos

Whoa!

You stated an absolute: “No Jew kills...”. You did NOT put any time limit on your claim. I stated 3 facts that disprove your statement. You agree they disprove your case, but claim that since 70 years have passed these facts don’t count. Didn’t you show Nobel Prizes dated more than 70 years ago? So, you display evidence over 70 years old that helps your argument, and you reject evidence more than 70 years old that disproves your argument. You won’t be getting a Nobel prize soon.

Finally, your blood libel that I hate the Jews. There is NOTHING in my post - not words, argument or tone - that shows even the merest whiff of hatred. I am posting FACTS to rebut a false claim.

Your reaction to FACTS you dislike is to deny their relevance when you are using the same time period, deny a proven fact, ignore the third, and then hurl an unfounded blood libel.

Truly poor form. Pleas have someone proof your arguments until you come up to speed, and have someone else craft your rebuttal. It would help your case.


67 posted on 08/09/2013 8:10:28 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Phony President)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yeah, Hawkings. My baaaaad.


68 posted on 08/09/2013 8:21:06 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Kip Russell
He went on to argue that although Muslims were responsible for many achievements during the Dark Ages, including alchemy and algebra, their contribution since then was questionable.

Those were Persians.

69 posted on 08/09/2013 8:22:40 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Future Snake Eater
Just as the left needs to go back to the Crusades to discuss Christian “brutality,”...

Once the moslem persecution of Dawkins really gets rolling, he may learn that there was a pretty good reason for Crusades after all.

70 posted on 08/09/2013 8:23:58 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: NurdlyPeon
Physics: (zero)

Minor quibble, but I can think of at least one Muslim Nobel Prize recipient in physics: Abdus Salam (Pakistani)

71 posted on 08/09/2013 8:43:14 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: beethovenfan
For once I agree with Dawkins. What positive effect has Islam had on the world? I can think only of negatives.

I agree with about half his statement. Muslims didn't do anything noteworthy in the middle ages though. Often algebra, and 'zero' are mentioned in this context, but both these concepts were stolen from India, and were not developed by muslims. Everywhere you find acceptance of muhammed, you find ignorance, repression, and death. This has been true since the time of the pedophile forward.

72 posted on 08/09/2013 10:13:37 AM PDT by zeugma (Be a truechimer, not a falseticker!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Kip Russell.

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73 posted on 08/10/2013 6:36:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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Thanks Kip Russell.

74 posted on 08/10/2013 7:49:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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