Posted on 08/25/2013 9:16:55 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
This morning we showed up at Moore Square at 9:00 a.m., just like we have done virtually every Saturday and Sunday for the last six years. We provide, without cost or obligation, hot coffee and a breakfast sandwich to anyone who wants one. We keep this promise to our community in cooperation with five different large suburban churches that help us with manpower and funding.
Today officers from Raleigh Police Department prevented us from doing our work, for the first time ever. An officer said, quite bluntly, that if we attempted to distribute food, we would be arrested.
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Apparently, the Marxist government now believes that feeding the hungry is the job of liberal DemocRAT politicians. Using OPM (other people’s money) of course. When someone else does it, it takes away a photo opportunity for DemocRAT politicians.
It wasn’t illegal - it was an undocumented meal.
these Christian right wingers and their feed the poor notions are stealing jobs away from the govt workers....it must be stopped.../sarcasm/
I have a few questions please:
What is stopping them from setting up shop inside a church and telling the homeless gathered where they normally do that a new location has been chosen?
Secondly, in looking at the second picture in the article, I don’t see any people that I would normally consider as “homeless”. I see casually well-dressed citizens, some even sporting a few extra pounds. Are these the “homeless?”
To me, consistently causing a group of people to congregate in a popular public area week in, week out to hand out food is not a ideal function that fits the larger use. There are food banks, shelters and soup kitchens for that. Why does it have to be on the streets of the public park?
Regardless of these questions and my feelings, they still have a right to hand out food if they want, but I’d be willing to bet their ‘homeless’ ain’t that.
I lasted two years in Raleigh before I sped back at warp speed to Arizona. Between the communists, the brotherhood, the crappy infrastructure that kept me sitting on two lane roads forever and the rain—I had to get out.
Ever see a sign at a forest that says, Do not feed the wildlife? Seems most urban parks have become useless to families because of activities related to the vagrants. If you want to feed them why not open your church? Or home or place of business Why go to a public park? I wish more communities refrained from allowing vagrants to take over and ruin public spaces.
The only answer is to take the chance and get arrested. The cop couldn’t cite the law being broken, but someone would have to when they book you.
As long as the police have the power to oppress by just making vague threats, they will do that. Make them put something in writing.
But, there is a caveat: they will arrest you for committing no crime that they are willing to put on paper. And then when you refuse to handcuff yourself and submit to them in every way (including asking “what am I being arrested for?”), they will add on “opposing arrest” or, if you flinch as they twist your arms, they will add on “resisting arrest”. Then, they’ll “drop” the non-existent charge and keep the opposing/resisting charge.
This is how a police state works prior to being given free reign to assault and murder citizens.
What a stupid analogy, and thank you for totally missing the point. And FTR, this park is inner city and never has, never will be the kind of park you are talking about. And none of what you bring up even addresses the point of the article, which was government gone wild with cop enforcement. Really? Get a clue dude.
you too, missed the point. You made some good points, but you missed the main one. Thanks for playing. Drive safe.
Thank you so much for your especially condescending ‘Christian’ remarks.
I didn’t miss the point. I realize it’s supposed to be a free country and the cop was uncivil and rude, and that the givers had a perfect right to be there. I merely posed better location alternatives.
I do, however, question their intelligence in this particular wasted effort. Those people gathered there for biscuits and coffee, if the second picture is representative of “homeless”, they certainly don’t fit the picture of someone in need of assistance - CLEARLY.
The fact is that I find if difficult to believe that in this country where over 1/2 of its adults are on some form of Federal assistance, 1/3 are on SNAP, so many are on unemployment, so so many are on Section 8 housing (which is ridiculously generous in terms of tenant contributions), so many receiving EITC, TANF, WICs and the myriad of other church food banks and giveaways and the like that there are any ‘homeless’ at all. We are egregiously generous to our down-trodden to the tune of an extra TRILLION DOLLARS a year of extra entitlements spread over 85 different programs.
The logical conclusion is that if they are indeed homeless, they do so by choice.
Charity, properly given, is a good thing. Charity for charity’s sake with no sense applied is a waste.
...And find a committed local attorney;
and/or one of the Christian legal advocate network reps...
ADF... etc...
DON'T BE INTIMIDATED!!
you say you didn’t miss the point...but then you ramble on about something other than the point. You make some valid points that I agree with....and they have nothing....ZIP ZERO NADA to do with the point of this article - which is, to help you out, abuse of power by cops carrying out the dictates of a liberal mayor and city council who have their cronies in business downtown and a hatred of relgious groups.
The bad or imprudent decisions of those groups, or the worthiness of their constituents is totally an unrelated issue. And if you knew anything about this particular park, and apparently you do not, you would know that likely most of the recipients are indeed in need. Far more so than EIB cards.
And you missed my point, Christian.
We keep this promise to our community in cooperation with five different large suburban churches that help us with manpower and funding.Hey, I have an idea, how about serving breakfast at one of the 5 churches?
OR
Since they don't know what to charge you with, let them arrest you so you can have your day in court.
They need to go backwith a serious lawyer in tow.The barracuda can explain the law to the cops.
“They need to go backwith a serious lawyer in tow.”
ACLU type comes to mind.
Regardless of these questions and my feelings, they still have a right to hand out food if they want,Not really. Most places have health and safety standards for food prep and handling. It doesn't matter if you're handing it out or selling it, nor should it.
no, I got your point....which was OFF point. Start your own thread if you want to make YOUR point.
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