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“As if the government would release any effective results from being classified. We only get to hear about what does not work. Whether they found anything that did work could well be another story altogether.”

Yes, but we are talking 60 years ago now. Stuff leaks by that time, or gets stolen by the enemy. So if this was real, there would be more evidence for it than the rantings of Alex Jones, by now.

Yes, but we are talking 60 years ago now. Stuff leaks by that time, or gets stolen by the enemy.

If the objective is mind control, and they were successful, who would tell?

Not to mention that anyone who did would be ridiculed and end up on Alex Jones trying to get the story out (because no one else would cover it).

Crap! We can't get the media to cover Benghazzi, Fast and Furious, or a host of other juicy Pullitzer fertile stories, what makes you think they would cover anything as far out as the government playing some games with your head?

Just think of the possibilities! You could calm p-o'ed commuters with a broadcast, or plant subliminals in their teevee or on their cell comms (they ARE listening in, what's the next step?). Even the idea that mind control is impossible. But we know it isn't because "they" told us so, right?

Now, I'm not saying it exists or it doesen't, but I won't summarily dismiss the possibility.

Some days it seems like we're living in the movie They Live, but I can't find my sunglasses. Haven't you noticed the stuporous behaviour of large segments of the population which might be inclined to watch Oprah re-runs? Maybe there is a signal in the feed...

(8^D)

Yes, but we are talking 60 years ago now. Stuff leaks by that time, or gets stolen by the enemy. So if this was real, there would be more evidence for it than the rantings of Alex Jones, by now.

The big secrets don't leak over time. People don't understand how this secrecy can be maintained; it's simple.

a) compartmentalization

b) even within 1 compartment, people accepted into the inner circle of knowledge are limited to:
i) those who are already in on bigtime secrets; standard practice in criminal organizations is to get everyone's hands dirty - participate in the crime - now everyone has something to hide and will aid in keeping the secrets (all criminal organizations do this - you can't be part of one and have clean hands)
ii) people whose parents, grandparents, etc., were part of the inner circle
iii) the inner circle maintaining a charade of massive proportions in the implications of the secret, not in the sophistication of the secret. It's real simple stuff, but the implication is a conspiracy where the US government has been hijacked. And all the inner circle would be implicated if the truth comes out. Ergo, they have an enormous vested interest in maintaining the charade.
iv) the inner circle people are part of a class of people that has lasted through the centuries and become expert at controlling people, mostly through a person's weaknesses, lusts, desire for power, etc.; espionage is their area of expertise; they pass on their knowledge to offspring and top chosen proteges. It sounds complex, but it's simple, basic facts of life; they know how to manipulate people better than a crazy ex-girlfriend.

c) Spreading false information: one of the best ways to hide a conspiracy to commit a crime is to start a lot of false or partly true rumors about the real conspiracy. After a few, people turn off on the whole idea and think none of it is true. It's very important to actually leak out pieces and parts that are actually what you are really doing. This way, those items are forever protected by this tactic, since no one will ever take them seriously. Spread enough wacky stories, and your secret is safe.

There are a ton of secrets that have not leaked over time; we know no more than we ever did about many of them. It's just cause for speculation, TV shows about conspiracies, and fodder for internet chattering. But we don't know the truth in many instances.

The real "trick" is that we therefore, as a nation, generally do not go and learn about what we can access, like old published articles, congressional and court testimony, public records, etc.

This is how a totally obscure person can be elected President, because we refuse to believe that there is any big conspiracy going on, let alone try to think of how to defeat it.