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1 posted on 10/01/2013 1:50:56 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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In other news today:

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/government-shuts-down-nation-descends-into-riots-looting-and-cannibalism/


2 posted on 10/01/2013 1:53:10 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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OOPS!

Mainstream!

Oh No!

Harry is going to go thermonuclear!

He might even raise his voice!

NOOOOOOOOO!


3 posted on 10/01/2013 1:53:50 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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We are winning folks!


4 posted on 10/01/2013 1:54:08 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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"But he is instead digging in."

Boner grew a pair? Well, color me surprised. Let's hope he keeps it up.

This is a fight worth having to the bitter end.

5 posted on 10/01/2013 1:54:14 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I REFUSE!)
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"Senator Ted Cruz is now going to pick his favorite federal agencies to reopen?" Senate Majority Whip Richard Durbin, D-Ill., responded when asked about the House plan.

Democrats are such phony snakes. This whole thing has its roots in their refusal to pass a budget. That's the whole cause of this constant state of "oh noes, we're about to go over a cliff" every three or four months. You want every agency open? Then pass a budget.

6 posted on 10/01/2013 1:55:28 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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How about this idea: Go through the enumerated powers and provide reasonable funding for each of them in turn. When you get to the end of the list, stop.


7 posted on 10/01/2013 1:56:51 PM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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This is the way to deal with pinpricks.


8 posted on 10/01/2013 1:56:58 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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Where’s the bill that requires all members of Congress and the President to not be exempt from Obamacare?


9 posted on 10/01/2013 1:57:17 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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"Wait until people start looking at the retirement accounts and savings after a couple of days when the stock market declines," Durbin said.

Durbin should look at the market today, the first day of the "shutdown".

10 posted on 10/01/2013 1:58:43 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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"Senator Ted Cruz is now going to pick his favorite federal agencies to reopen?"

Exactly.

Deal with it.

11 posted on 10/01/2013 1:59:00 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I REFUSE!)
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Gee, you’d think Susan Ferrechio might have included some positive quotes from Repubs, rather than just the hissing and mockery from the Marxists.


12 posted on 10/01/2013 1:59:21 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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This is what "doing the will of the people" looks like. I call it "winning".


13 posted on 10/01/2013 1:59:33 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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"Wait until people start looking at the retirement accounts and savings after a couple of days when the stock market declines," Durbin said. They are going to have second thoughts about this wonderful Tea Party incident."

So far the stock markets almost all seem to be *up* on the news.

15 posted on 10/01/2013 2:00:14 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Why should a Republican controlled House reopen the EPA? Did the Department of Education get partially closed? If so, why reopen it? Our education system is becoming obsolete anyway because of the internet.


25 posted on 10/01/2013 2:18:39 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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“Mini”? Really?


29 posted on 10/01/2013 2:25:40 PM PDT by buridan
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In celebration of todays government shutdown and the obvious pain being felt by the libs, we are cooking a turkey dinner with all the trimmings.


36 posted on 10/01/2013 2:38:17 PM PDT by Gator113 (The mighty Bear ate the cowardly rat. Obama must resign.)
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This approach dovetails nicely with the upcoming debt ceiling showdown. The House can send limited CRs to the Senate to fund essential gov services. Then they could start funding non essential departments such as Education, but with a 10% to 20% cut from last year. In the case of the Dept of Education they could just fund the block grants to the states and leave the DC bureaucrats furlowed. Then as the debt ceiling approaches they can pass a bill to extend the debt ceiling by only enough to cover the much lower deficit that will resulting from not funding unnecessary gov programs and Departments.
39 posted on 10/01/2013 2:43:33 PM PDT by Pres Raygun (It's the economy stupid.)
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An interesting parallel from the Wikipedia article on Prohibition in the United States.


Unpopularity of prohibition and repeal movement

As early as 1925, journalist H. L. Mencken believed that Prohibition was not working. As the prohibition years continued, more of the country’s populace came to see prohibition as illustrative of class distinctions, a law unfairly biased in its administration favoring social elites. "Prohibition worked best when directed at its primary target: the working-class poor." Historian Lizabeth Cohen writes: “ A rich family could have a cellar-full of liquor, but if a poor family had a bottle of home-brew, there would be trouble.” Working-class people were inflamed by the fact that their employers could dip into a cache of private stock while they, the employees, were denied a similar indulgence.

Indeed, before the date that the Eighteenth Amendment became national law, many of the upper classes stockpiled alcohol for home consumption. They bought out the inventories of warehouses, saloons, club store rooms, they emptied out liquor retailers and wholesalers. American lawmakers themselves followed these practices at the highest levels of government. President Woodrow Wilson moved his own supply of alcoholic beverages to his Washington residence after his term of office ended. His successor, Warren G. Harding relocated his own large supply into the White House after inauguration.

In October 1930, just two weeks before the Congressional midterm elections, bootlegger George Cassiday, "the man in the green hat," came forward and told how he had bootlegged for ten years for Congress. One of the few bootleggers ever to tell his story, he wrote five front page articles in The Washington Post. He estimated that eighty percent of congressmen and senators drank, even though these same people were the ones passing dry laws. This had a significant impact on the midterm election, which saw Congress shift from a dry Republican majority to a wet Democratic majority. The Democrats understood that Prohibition was unpopular and called for its repeal.


Does anybody see any parallels with today's fight over Obamacare? Switch the parties, but history is repeating itself. The politicians are doing for themselves the opposite of what they're mandating for the rest of the country. Waivers from Obamacare for politicians and big business, but not for individuals.

-PJ

40 posted on 10/01/2013 2:44:33 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Good going Republicans:you didn’t back down and you went through with shutting down the government. standing ovation to them


41 posted on 10/01/2013 2:44:56 PM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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The GOP's latest move is aimed at responding to the daylong drumbeat from Democrats about the negative effects of the shutdown that they have blamed squarely on the GOP.

This makes sense. The House of Representatives is where spending bills originate. Piecemeal funding by the House for noncontroversial spending makes sense.

For the Democrats to reject a spending bill that is perfectly acceptable otherwise might be viewed as foolish and mean spirited. The Democrats may want the government to stay shut down, but why, we ask?

Are the Senate Democrats dictating to the House or Representatives how the House should do their work? Do the Senate Democrats want to take over the responsibility of originating spending bills? Is that okay with the low information voter?

46 posted on 10/01/2013 2:53:16 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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