Posted on 10/18/2013 8:45:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
I never said we are doomed. but it does look that way. i ask, after you do all you suggested. Then what?
I didn’t suggest doing anything. Where did you read that?
I think i got your post confused with something else. carry on.
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There is a problem with that approach.
The Federal Government would not be in total charge of the program.
And, more important, wouldn't be receiving directly all the information required upon enrollment: Name, address, family members, income, employment, SS #, bank account and routing numbers, etc.!
There is a problem with that approach. The Federal Government would not be in total charge of the program.”
You’re right. I keep forgetting that the real purpose of this program has nothing to do with health insurance. That was just the wrapping on the package.
......I can’t excerpt all the parts that are noteworthy, although if you’ve been following news about the Healthcare.gov apocalypse you already know some of what Levin reports — the login fiasco is a result of HHS demanding that people create an account before seeing what plans cost, the system still can’t calculate subsidies correctly (which means some people are getting the wrong price when they buy coverage), the “back end” communications between the federal data hub and private insurers are a shambles, and the chaos will only increase if HHS solves the login problems without solving the back end problems. (Imagine insurers having to sift through 5,000 garbled enrollments per day instead of 50.) What about the timeline, though? Per Levin’s sources, D-Day will come sometime in mid-November.
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..........One key worry is based on the fact that what they’re facing is not a situation where it is impossible to buy coverage but one where it is possible but very difficult to buy coverage. That’s much worse from their point of view, because it means that only highly motivated consumers are getting coverage. People who are highly motivated to get coverage in a community-rated insurance system are very likely to be in bad health. The healthy young man who sees an ad for his state exchange during a baseball game and loads up the site to get coverage—the dream consumer so essential to the design of the exchange system—will not keep trying 25 times over a week if the site is not working. The person with high health costs and no insurance will. The exchange system is designed to enable that sick person to get coverage, of course, but it can only do that if the healthy person does too. The insurers don’t yet have a clear overall sense of the risk profile of the people who are signing up, but the circumstantial evidence they have is very distressing to them. The danger of a rapid adverse selection spiral is much more serious than they believed possible this summer. They would love it if the administration could shut down the exchange system, at least the federal one, until the interface problems can be addressed. But they know this is impossible.
If the objective was, as we were told, to insure everybody -- wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier to simply give a policy to everybody without one?
Like poverty, the war on drugs, the environment, and (insert your favorite liberal ideology here) the only way to fix it is with more money of course.
Tell us how you really feel....
If the objective was, as we were told, to insure everybody...”
But that was not the real objective. My grandson will eat most vegetables only if they are covered in melted cheese and he can dip them in Ranch dressing so if I want him to eat his vegetables I just drag out the cheese and the Ranch dressing. What several someone’s in the government decided to do was to disguise what they wanted to accomplish by packaging it as health care for all. It’s all about means, ends and packaging.
The MSM can spin this any way they want, but this time it’s up close and personal for the public.
They aren’t buying it and the won’t.
The MSM spins one way only - to the left. So it doesn’t matter what democrats say, the press will believe it. For now...
It doesn’t matter what the press thinks. Voters are seeing the disasterous results of this law first hand. Not only from a tech standpoint, but in the form of hugely rising premiums, loss of choice of doctors & coverage options and giant deductibles.
And they’re not happy. The middle class, which is full of swayable Independents, is very pissed. And they WILL vote next fall.
The whole Obamacare project has nothing to do with healthcare, only with control.
The whole Obamacare project has nothing to do with healthcare, only with control.”
Been doing some thinking on this whole issue. If Obama really wanted to control health care, it could be done easily enough and without spending so much money for something that isn’t going to work.
I think there are forces behind the scene that want to create total mayhem and virtually destroy everything that has made America great and prosperous: healthcare, creative minds once developed through education, money, food, great military, religious freedom, ability to defend ourselves.
We’re losing doctors, our public education system sucks, too many people out of work and jobs not being created, corn is used for ethanol and access to food for millions can easily be controlled through withdrawal of food stamps, our military is being gutted, we can no longer worship when and were we choose and there is a huge anti-gun movement.
Revolt, dictatorship or take over by outside forces?
To answer that question, you'd need to know who is calling the shots for Obama.
For purpose of discussion, let's stipulate that Valerie Jarrett is, in fact, Obama's "controller". This has been often rumored and I'm prepared to accept that it's true. My reading of Obama is that a.) he's not particularly smart and b.) he's lazy. Accordingly, the agenda that is being pursued hasn't been authored by him but, by virtue of his raising and his training, he's certainly in agreement with it.
So, somebody is "running" him. That being Jarrett.
But who's running her?
Remember that Blackberry that Obama refused to surrender upon being elected President? The one that the National Archives grudgingly let him keep, even though it wasn't tied into the White House network -- so there would be no record of who he talked to and what was discussed (as there is of every other Presidential phone conversation). Wouldn't you like to know who is on the other end of that Blackberry?
My own working theory is that:
a. Both Obama and Jarrett are of the Chicago cell of domestic Communists. A group that includes (or has included): William Ayers (and his father), Valerie Jarrett's husband and father-in-law, David Axelrod (and his parents), Michael Kronsky (and other Ayers followers from the Weather Underground), Frank Marshall Davis, Saul Alinsky et cetera.
b. Starting in the eighties, the funding that the cell received from the KGB began to dry up as the Soviets realized they were losing the Cold War. The cell began searching for a new source of funds and found one in the Radical Islamists (e.g., Muslim Brotherhood). Both the Communists and the Islamists had been busily agitating in the black community, recruiting allies. Vernon Jarrett was one of these who was plugged into both groups. Brotherhood money started replacing Soviet money in the Chicago Cell -- but there was a price to be paid.
c. Eventually, it was agreed that, were they able to subvert the U.S. and install a leader under their control that the Communists would set the domestic agenda while the Brotherhood would control foreign policy.
And here we are...
This explanation accurately reflects history...plus it explains the strangely bifurcated approach the regime has to domestic policy and foreign policy.
I confess, though, that I have no idea exactly who it is on the other end of that phone. Or who is giving directions to Jarrett.
But I suspect we have enough context to answer your question...
But who’s running her?
It pays to know people.
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