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To: DBrow; nascarnation
With single payer you eliminate insurance companies. That would cut out a lot of potential graft and corruption.

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Probably, then, a fascist approach where the individual companies exist, but everything they do is regulated by or dictated by the government. That would preserve a lot of the money flows to the “important people”.

Bingo!!! We have a winner!

With single payer you can have the system completely managed by government or by individual companies under govt supervision.

13 posted on 10/30/2013 10:51:14 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Jane Long
Probably, then, a fascist approach where the individual companies exist, but everything they do is regulated by or dictated by the government. That would preserve a lot of the money flows to the “important people”.
Bingo!!! We have a winner!

I can't help wondering Throughout world history, people seeking dominion over other people have always claimed that their desire for ultimate power served some greater common good.

Yeah.
And it has a precise name.

Fascism

I have been stressing this reality since Hillary's crash-and-burn attempt to promote "Universal Health Care" in the early '90s.

It is impossible to grasp the true concept of Fascism without returning to an age of clarity and facts vs opinion and editorializing; before personal definitions, euphemisms, the puerile, self-serving age of "depends of what the definition of is, is.

According to the Encyclopedia of Philosophy, Collier-Macmillan, Volumes 3-4, 1967, pp182-183 et seq.:

"...whereas Liberalism, socialism, democracy, and the other progressive movements of the nineteenth century had asserted the rights of man, the selfish claims of the individual, Fascism sought, instead, to uphold the moral integrity and higher collective purpose of the nation. And whereas liberalism saw the state simply as an institution created to protect men's rights, fascism looked on the state as an organic entity which embodied in itself all the noblest spiritual reality of the people as a whole. Fascism opposed the laissez-faire economics of the capitalism and the bourgeois ethos which went with it. But fascism equally opposed socialism, which preached class war and trade unionism and thus served only to divide the nation. Fascism could tolerate no organized sectional groups which stood outside the state, for such groups pressed the supposed interests of some against the true interests of all...

"...fascism set up corporations which were designed to integrate the interests of particular trades, industries, professions and the like into the wider harmony of the state."

So which is it?
What is Obamacare?
Marxism? Socialism? Fascism?
I know what my opinion is...

21 posted on 10/30/2013 2:19:23 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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