Posted on 11/07/2013 4:59:55 AM PST by Kaslin
Ron Paul
Maybe we should start a classification of “noseless” for these Republicans and Libertarians. Although, if a Bush or Christy gets the 2016 Republican nomination, I’ll be “noseless” too, I guess.
Savris was a Maher-style “libertarian” funded by the democrats. Soros’ plan codenamed “Perot”.
There may have been other problems but they would have been irrelevant if not for Savris taking votes. He is the primary cause of this defeat, he all and the useless idiot paulbots who voted for him against their heroes’ advice.
Thanks for posting. Excellent piece (and heck, I didn’t even write it) and nice little analogy between libtards and GOP e near end of article.
Let’s not forget the idiot who founded CATO runs a super pac that poured 300 K of mostly anti Cooch advertising in on behalf of Sarvis ..when Sarvis has nothing in common with CATO other than libtard label.
I once attended two separate Libertarian rallies. I talked with a few people about the platform and the party’s aims.
At BOTH rallies, different people confided the exact same thing:
“It’s all about the free dope. Not ‘free to smoke dope’, but to ‘smoke FREE dope’.”
Not national security, not tax laws, not intrusive government nor civil liberties. But to smoke taxpayer-funded dope.
Libertarians are like drooling dogs.
And so what? There are plenty of posters here on FR who don't exactly cry themselves to sleep when GOP-e candidates lose.
f@$k1*g losertarians sucked about 6% of the vote from the GOP in the Virginia gubernatorial election.
yes, short sightedness and infantile ignorance is widespread .
Well, it's pretty slick for the author to get inside the heads of celebrants, but McCain? McCain? Hello?
What the "anybody but a libertarian" crowd here does not apparently understand is that the main reason for moral decay in America is the size and scope of the federal governemnt. Getting a stupid fool like McCain to head it up changes nothing since there would be a token improvement or two more than offset by federal expansion into new areas. What difference does it make whether we quickly go down the California route under Hillary, or slowly under Christie?
I will vote Libertarian or better third party in 2016 given those choices.
Cuccinelli should have been elected governor here and I voted for him along with many other conservatives in my conservative part of Virginia. But don't confuse local politics with national.
The hate-mongering in this thread shows that the GOP is truly dead, killed by its own hand, and in rigor mortis. Just because someone calls himself liberatarian, doesn’t make it so, just as someone who does not call himself libertarian, doesn’t mean he isn’t. The impulse behind the Tea Party is essentially libertarian, which is part of the reason the GOP establishment is trying to destroy it, and some of you hate-mongers are helping. If you don’t believe in Consitutional government, you have no business calling yourselves conservatives.
Interesting, but somehow, the DNC manages not only to pander to their base, but to get things they want done.
Maybe RNC would win more if they started doing this instead of blaming their base for not being in the middle.
In the spirit of “it’s a government of the people, by the people and for the people” how is it the people’s fault that they don’t “serve” a political party. It’s supposed to be the other way around. The RNC may want to take more of a “customer is always right” approach.
Can you imagine a store owner complaining that customers don’t see the wisdom of purchasing a product over another, and stridently keeps it on the shelf though folks aren’t buying it enough to make a profit?
Also, the 6% vote for the libertarian candidate would not necessarily translate to a +6% for Cuccilnelli if the other candidate was off the list. In that case, it could be that those 6% would stay home.
Not me. I'll bust my butt for the arch-conservative gun-flag-and-Bible-waver with a chainsaw marked "Budget Tool" through the primaries right up through the convention, but after that, "the enemy's gate is down" and to the left.
And I just made that my new tagline.
Blaming Libertarians for the failures of the GOPe is like taking aspirin to treat a broken leg.
I think you make a fascinating and very important point and I’d like to echo and add: The genesis of the tea party movement was absolutely limited government reaction to obama care and mortgage fraud and so on I won’t go thru the Feb 2009 santelli-rush-drudge-NBC-Robert Gibbs-obama time table here, but that’s clearly the spark that lit a huge town hall anti obama care anti government kindling pile that had been buidling for a while.
EVen if you joined without knowing that’s how it came about, that’s still how it came about.
Now, most of these people were also soc conservatives, but that was NEVER the reason for the TP in the beginning but some TP groups have sort of been hijacked by a social focus. Some have been hijacked by a sort of anti religion hard core libtard focus (libtard NOT quite the same as legit liberty type). Some are more true to the original intent and idea. Not passing judgment here, just stating what has happened.
And of course, the GOPe hates all of it the limited gov types, the soc cons type, and the liberty types. This civil war, or set of wars, is raging now ..
The problem with libertarians is that there is not enough of them.
That’s what I always get from Libertarians too. Chatting with them always starts off as nice calm, low-key discussions about federlism and the 10th Amendment and such (on which we’re usually on the same wavelength). But then, they veer the topic over to DOPE, and their eyes widen and they get entirely animated. It’s their driving factor.
I just can’t have any respect for, or interest in what people say, when their all-consuming passion involves zonking their brains into orbit. The whole hippie-style self-absorption mindset. It repells me. It’s so stunted and just damned un-manly. Someone tells me they are a Libertarian, and I walk away.
Ed Crane, Purple PACs president, said the group would spend at least $300,000 on the campaign to boost Sarvis. Crane is also the founder of the Libertarian Cato Institute.
Virginia: We have a rational choice for governor, the ads narrator says. Why choose between a hard right socially intolerant conservative and an ethically challenged big government liberal? Robert Sarvis entrepreneur, Libertarian. Social tolerance and lower taxes. Virginias future. Send a message. Nov. 5th, vote Sarvis for governor.
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