Ron Paul
Maybe we should start a classification of “noseless” for these Republicans and Libertarians. Although, if a Bush or Christy gets the 2016 Republican nomination, I’ll be “noseless” too, I guess.
Savris was a Maher-style “libertarian” funded by the democrats. Soros’ plan codenamed “Perot”.
There may have been other problems but they would have been irrelevant if not for Savris taking votes. He is the primary cause of this defeat, he all and the useless idiot paulbots who voted for him against their heroes’ advice.
Thanks for posting. Excellent piece (and heck, I didn’t even write it) and nice little analogy between libtards and GOP e near end of article.
Libertarians are like drooling dogs.
And so what? There are plenty of posters here on FR who don't exactly cry themselves to sleep when GOP-e candidates lose.
f@$k1*g losertarians sucked about 6% of the vote from the GOP in the Virginia gubernatorial election.
Well, it's pretty slick for the author to get inside the heads of celebrants, but McCain? McCain? Hello?
What the "anybody but a libertarian" crowd here does not apparently understand is that the main reason for moral decay in America is the size and scope of the federal governemnt. Getting a stupid fool like McCain to head it up changes nothing since there would be a token improvement or two more than offset by federal expansion into new areas. What difference does it make whether we quickly go down the California route under Hillary, or slowly under Christie?
I will vote Libertarian or better third party in 2016 given those choices.
Cuccinelli should have been elected governor here and I voted for him along with many other conservatives in my conservative part of Virginia. But don't confuse local politics with national.
The hate-mongering in this thread shows that the GOP is truly dead, killed by its own hand, and in rigor mortis. Just because someone calls himself liberatarian, doesn’t make it so, just as someone who does not call himself libertarian, doesn’t mean he isn’t. The impulse behind the Tea Party is essentially libertarian, which is part of the reason the GOP establishment is trying to destroy it, and some of you hate-mongers are helping. If you don’t believe in Consitutional government, you have no business calling yourselves conservatives.
Interesting, but somehow, the DNC manages not only to pander to their base, but to get things they want done.
Maybe RNC would win more if they started doing this instead of blaming their base for not being in the middle.
In the spirit of “it’s a government of the people, by the people and for the people” how is it the people’s fault that they don’t “serve” a political party. It’s supposed to be the other way around. The RNC may want to take more of a “customer is always right” approach.
Can you imagine a store owner complaining that customers don’t see the wisdom of purchasing a product over another, and stridently keeps it on the shelf though folks aren’t buying it enough to make a profit?
Also, the 6% vote for the libertarian candidate would not necessarily translate to a +6% for Cuccilnelli if the other candidate was off the list. In that case, it could be that those 6% would stay home.
Blaming Libertarians for the failures of the GOPe is like taking aspirin to treat a broken leg.
The problem with libertarians is that there is not enough of them.
I'm so glad you asked.
It also means and promoting baby-killers and the P/M child molesters (who want smaller government)
I became disgusted with libertarians when I was active with the Young Americans for Freedom in the 1970’s. They were mostly interested in removing all restrictions on abortion, gambling, prostitution, pornography and especially narcotics, and they were always trying to get YAF to go on record in support of these causes. They would proclaim over and over that “we are NOT conservatives; We are libertarians,” yet they kept trying to take over YAF—they even tried to revise YAF’s founding document, the Sharon Statement, which defines the organization as conservative when it states, “we as young conservatives...” However, within YAF, they never amounted to more than a small but noisy minority.
Savris is not a libertarian. He was purposely implanted by the Obama machine so Cuccinelli would lose.
The problem with Libertarians is the same as with Republicans and Democrats. None are what they used to be.
Republicans have morphed into RAT-lite, Democrats into socialist/communist/Marxists and Libertarians into LemmmeHavMyDrugsAnLeaveMeAlone.
Sooner or later you have to decide to quit voting for Tyrants no matter what brand they have on. For many on this forum it was John McCain, for others Mitt Romney and it appears for yet more it may be Chris Christie. You cannot expect a more principled party to emerge if you ask the ones with principles to abandon theirs.
When the GOP stops blaming voter and begin to run real conservatives with principles that ensconce our sacred Liberty where it belongs they might begin to win again. That's the fight that's taking place behind the scenes in many areas.
Cuccinelli was a loser when the Republicans decided to nominate by convention and, so, froze out the moderate Lt. Governor. Without that, it is probable the Libertarians wouldn’t have gotten their candidate on the ballot. (They usually don’t for Governor, and only succeed in this state for President with outside help.) Nevertheless, Cuccinelli came close because of the disastrous Obamacare roll-out, which makes his loss frustrating.
Take-away:
Republicans should pass legislation saying that ballot-qualified parties will nominate by primary. If the Republicans want the parties to be able to hold closed primaries, then have voter indicate their party affiliation when they register. Since registration is closed 30 days prior to an election or primary in this state, that would effectively preclude gaming the system.
The word no longer has any meaning other than a different version of progressive tyranny, certainly no coherent philosophy to speak of except what the ruling establishment elite foists on its base And there’s no one to blame for that except Republicans themselves.
So what happened? By not enforcing their defining parameters as a set of beliefs to be adhered to, principles over the party, Republicans allowed their brand to be hijacked by any progressive willing to wear the label.
They went from the movement for individual responsibility, small government and free markets to an establishment ruled progressive party with little more than a watered down version of their oppositions beliefs and goals.
A party set in a total interventionist (Policeman of the Earth) foreign policy that along with it`s progressive pro-government growth stance and open borders policy seeks to bankrupt and also fundamentally change the country as we have known it.
That pretty much also sums it up.
Honestly, what does being a Republican mean beyond a liberal lite philosophy that also leads to tyranny, open borders, and getting our brave young men and women killed in a foolhardy attempt to bring civilization to a bunch of psychotic, bloodthirsty, neolithic savages?
You seemed to be missing some of the reasons why so many are absolutely sick and tired of your party, just wanted to clear that posting up a bit,bring a little perspective.