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To: Spktyr
Increase drugged and drunk driving/recklessness/etc laws - yes, BOTH because in point of fact drunk drivers actually do more damage now - to top-grade felonies. First offense if you cause damage to others while drunk or drugged: minimum $100,000 fine payable to the person so injured, minimum 10 year jail sentence, assets to be seized to cover the other parties’ damage in full.

Sound good?

Make them a ward of the state for ten years? Are you kidding? What makes you think that the average druggie will be able to fund restitution? That's pathetic.

When caught at an accident site in which someone has died, if obviously inebriated, death within 24 hours. How's that? Worse, you don't address the multigenerational damage users do via the damaged kids they let the government raise because nobody else will. You pretend that all such decisions of whether to use or not are confinable to the individual. It's nonsense. You exemplify EXACTLY libertarian attributes as I condensed them. That's why you didn't like it. It stung.

Worse, because of the spread between the cost of production and the cost of the risks posed on others attendant to drug use, there is no way to tax the drugs sufficiently, expect users to carry adequate liability insurance, or use them in controlled environments such that the user covers the cost of risk. Therein lies your problem. You have no solution.

31 posted on 11/18/2013 9:55:39 AM PST by Carry_Okie ("Single payer" is Medicaid for all; they'll pull the sheet over your head when you're done.)
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To: Carry_Okie

The listed first offense penalty is for just property damage. I fully support the summary roadside execution of anyone found intoxicated (whether on booze or drugs) at the scene of a fatal or injury accident they caused. Which goes one better than your idea, I note.

I would also point out that we still have laws on the books requiring those so sentenced to labor until the fine is paid. And we always have new ditches that need digging, etc., etc. Welcome to the new WPA, here’s your shovel, you’re working under military discipline until you pay off your fine, have a nice day.

Further, I’d point out that you still have all these problems *already* what with all the drug laws we already have. What’s your solution for the illegal drug users’ multigenerational damage, lack of insurance, etc.? Remember, this is already going on NOW with them fully illegal at the Federal and state levels - so what’s your plan for dealing with it?

Another point is that you seem to be confusing me with someone who wishes drugs to be legalized everywhere. I don’t. I can’t see any justification in the Constitution for it to be regulated *at the Federal level*. The states should determine if they wish to allow or ban such substances. Powers reserved to the states and the people, you know.


32 posted on 11/18/2013 10:06:53 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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