[Jim Robinson]

b/s

[chris37]

Oh.

No, they aren’t.

[Altura Ct.]

And we are supposed to vote for those who think like this?

[ObamahatesPACoal]

They’ll be voting Democrat for 200 years.

The Republicans need non Hispanic voters in the midwest to get to 270.

[SatinDoll]

The criteria shouldn’t be whether illegal aliens are potentially Republican voters...the criteria should be whether a person who comes here does so respectful of our laws!

[Washi]

Why are the GOPe so eager to slit their own throats, electorally speaking?

Are they really that stupid, or are they just more interested in the short-term benefits of cheap labor for business than they are in the long-term benefits of preserving America?

[struggle]

Fine, let them become citizens the LEGAL WAY.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

RE: “African Americans left the party of Lincoln due partly to rhetoric around civil rights.”

I remember those days. That's true but here's the "rhetoric"

Being for the Tenth Amendment -- even if you were vehemently against the Jim Crow laws in some states -- you were denounced as a racist Republican.

If you were disturbed by the violent rioting and backed the local police in support of law and order you were denounced as a racist Republican.

It matter not one whit that Republicans out-voted Democrats in support of civil rights issues IIRC.

The Rockefeller Republicans like Nelson Rockefeller, Scranton, George Romney, et al. denounced fellow Republicans and anyone who supported Goldwater as "purveyors of hate" and virtual KKK members -- even if you were vehemently against the the Jim Crow laws in some states.

BTW, Reagan never, never, never promised presidential amnesty for Democratic Party members who needed it and voted for him.. so in no way are ILLEGAL aliens comparable to Reagan Democrats.

[Pox]

They COULD be, but they are more interested in the handouts than any other topic, and I speak of the overwhelming majority of “Latinos”.

I’ve spoken with “Latinos” in Southern California who are here legally and from my understanding, the bulk of those who actually believe in earning an honest living are not fans of illegals and are disgusted with them.

[ansel12]

Conservatives can win over enough Hispanic voters to make the difference.

As proof that they are not a total lock for democrats, Hispanics who are Protestant voted 44% republican in 2000, 56% republican in 2004, and 48% republican in 2008.

We need to reach them, for instance in Texas many Hispanics voted against Davis in the primary, the GOP should be striking while their separation from her abortion message is fresh in their minds, we need to reinforce their suspicions that they are members of the wrong party, that they are supporting an unmasculine, immoral, exploitative, backwards looking party that doesn’t reflect qualities that Hispanics generally respect in individuals and in self identity.

[Tupelo]

I beg to differ. We have been told for over thirty years that Latinos were really conservative and just dying to become Republicans. The last few elections have proved that to be false. Hispanic Americans voted democrat by a margin of something like 75-25 in the last three or four elections. I do not think more than 35% have ever voted Republican. Even for Reagan.
That old buzzard ain't gonna fly no mo!

[dragnet2]

CPAC going Tokyo Rose....

[ansel12]

“African Americans left the party of Lincoln due partly to rhetoric around civil rights.”

They switched parties in 1936.

Up to and including 1932, they had always been GOP and voted about 70% GOP in 1932, then they permanently reversed in 1936, with 71% for the democrats, and always voting democrat since.

This is unlike anything natural in politics, an instant and total, and permanent, reversal, in a single election, and for the same president that they had just rejected by about 70%.

[Colonel_Flagg]

At one point, Reverend Cortés took issue with Morgan’s use of the word “amnesty.” “If you look it up in the dictionary it means forgiveness at no cost,” he said, and it would not apply “if someone comes forward” and has to “do recompense” as he said Republicans are proposing to require of immigrants currently here illegally.

I don't know what dictionary Cortes is using, but here's the one I saw:

"the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals."

Says nothing about cost. It says forgiveness, which is what AMNESTY is.

[GOPJ]

Right - and Democrats should try to court the NRA vote... they’re the Clinton Republicans...

[Graewoulf]

The root cause of the 1986 Amnesty Debacle was a lack of punishment for the Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico by Federal authorities in “both” political parties.

Now the States will have to take matters into their own hands, and all Hell will break loose.

Once again the US Federal Government has chosen to ignore their own laws.

[elpadre]

There are millions of Hispanics, citizens and non-citizens, in this country legally. I support them and wish them well. It is the others, the illegal aliens who must not be granted any path to citizenship. There is a great divide between the two groups and we should do what we can do to encourage and help the legal Hispanic community - not the other.

[Mark17]

Two participants in a panel on immigration at CPAC today expressed confidence in their closing statements that Hispanic immigrants will be a source of future votes for the Republican party.

I see no evidence of a cold front approaching Hell, and I do not see any swine growing wings and taking to the air, so I am inclined to believe the Pubbies will get their vote in the year 9595, if man is still alive.

[Theoria]

No.

Are Hispanics that socially conservative?

I often hear in the media that Hispanics are “socially conservative.” For that sort of thing you do need “quick & dirty” rules-of-thumb, and the assertion seems broadly plausible. On the other hand, the Hispanic attitude toward gay marriage isn’t really that different from non-Hispanic white (see GSS MARHOMO variable). So I decided to query non-Hispanic white and Hispanic attitudes to a range of “hot-button” social issues in the GSS. I also broke it down by college vs. non-college educated cohorts. All results are from the year 2000 and later.

	White non-Hispanic		Hispanic
	No college	College	No college	College
Abortion on demand, yes	38	53	28	47
Abortion if serious defect, yes	75	70	67	79
Make divorce easier	23	16	44	28
Keep divorce laws same	23	34	17	40
Make divorce more difficult	55	50	38	32
Premarital sex always wrong	26	19	21	16
Premarital sex almost always wrong	8	8	10	7
Premarital sex sometimes wrong	18	23	20	13
Premarital sex not wrong at all	47	50	49	64
Homosexual sex always wrong	58	35	61	33
Homosexual sex almost always wrong	4	5	5	4
Homosexual sex sometimes wrong	6	11	7	9
Homosexual sex not wrong at all	32	48	27	55
Porn should be illegal to all	40	30	36	25
Porn should be illegal to under 18	57	67	60	70
Porn should be legal to all	3	3	4	4
Strongly favor spanking children	28	17	25	19
Favor spanking children	47	44	44	43
Do not favor spanking children	19	28	22	20
Strongly do not favor spanking children	6	11	9	17
Allow incurable patients to die	72	72	58	76
Strongly agree better for man to work, woman to tend home	10	5	14	9
Agree better for man to work, woman to tend home	31	19	32	16
Disagree better for man to work, woman to tend home	43	49	43	48
Strongly disagree better for man to work, woman to tend home	16	28	11	27

These results can be used to support the proposition that Hispanics are socially conservative. But they are not of the magnitude or direction of difference that one finds when comparing evangelical white Protestants to other whites, or even blacks to whites. So though technically defensible, I think the assertion that Hispanics are socially conservative in their attitudes misleads the public somewhat.

(unless the divorce results are mis-coded, they do seem correct)

[Blood of Tyrants]

Despite the fact that 70% of Hispanics vote Rat. Legalizing 11-20 million more of them is a recipe for permanent minorities for decades.