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Second ship picks up 'ping' in Malaysia Airlines jet search
LA Times ^ | 4/5/14 | http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-malaysia-airlines-search-ping-20140405,0,5012897.stor

Posted on 04/05/2014 10:42:27 PM PDT by Kartographer

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I heard a ping in my house this morning


41 posted on 04/06/2014 8:07:31 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2016 OR BUST)
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To: arderkrag
I think FR needs a moratorium on conspiracy theories

I conspiracy theories and a lot of them end up being true. But in this case? No. Every hypothesis has already been considered, and what we need are facts and better data.

The real scandal is that a huge plane with hundreds of people on it, on a regularly scheduled flight, can be lost for so long. Meanwhile, big brother is probably reading this email.

42 posted on 04/06/2014 8:07:36 AM PDT by grania
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To: blueplum

I was just flying yesterday with my Dad in his little plane. He has a device called Find Me Spot that’s the size of a pager that sits on the visor and pings a satellite every ten minutes with current location. The information is captured and stored so family members or emergency contacts can easily follow the path of the plane. When we landed he hits the OK button and it sends a final ping and turns off.

This device costs about $100 and a subscription to the database costs $49 per year.


43 posted on 04/06/2014 8:19:40 AM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
If we could only get someone to photoshop a black box into this still:


44 posted on 04/06/2014 8:23:06 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: MortMan

Please see my post 43. The Find Me Spot device has it’s own power source, but could easily be provided with an external source of power. If that source is killed, the internal battery can operate for days.

You don’t need to reinvent the black box. You just need archived position data updated every ten minutes by satellite.


45 posted on 04/06/2014 8:26:12 AM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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To: Kartographer

The disinformation campaign continues. :-)


46 posted on 04/06/2014 8:29:38 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: stinkerpot65; naturalman1975

It’s FR in an election year - everything is a Muslim Democrat Terrorist conspiracy to take down the United States and start a One World government.

off years a better, but some of the speculation I’ve seen on FR is so ridiculous I literally laughed at the absurdity.


47 posted on 04/06/2014 8:55:35 AM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: Kartographer

Ping!


48 posted on 04/06/2014 9:13:29 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: MortMan

In the event of total electrical failure, a small prop that works off ram air will start to spin, providing minimal emergency backup power to the most critical systems, like communications and life support (if it could be called that), maybe some hydraulics.


49 posted on 04/06/2014 11:14:47 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a pessimist, I say plenty of negative things. Consider it a warning of sorts.)
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50 posted on 04/06/2014 11:16:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: logi_cal869
As former military myself, I find your statement 'out there'.

You're entitled to, but I'll stand by it.

Your loyalty to your government & friends/services is admirable (/s in regards to 'government'), but that statement does no favors to your reply to the comment that was obviously directed at the Malays, not the Aussies

My point is that the type of coverup that certain people are talking about would have to be a multinational effort - the Malaysians simply could not do it alone. They would require the complicity of, at this point, the Australian, New Zealand, United States, United Kingdom, and Chinese governments at a minimum, just for the aspect involving the Southern Indian Ocean search. They'd need a lot more countries involved for other aspects of it.

I could believe that one nation alone might try this - but I can't think of a scenario that would have all these nations doing it - as I said to begin with - "Give us a credible reason why they'd do this."

I cannot for the life of me think of one.

I especially can't think of one that would involve Australia cooperating with Chinese military vessels in a patch of water we regard as our own backyard that isn't because they are participating in a genuine search and rescue (not that rescue is an option anymore but finding out what happened might still help some families). That type of humanitarian mission is the only thing I can see us working with the Chinese on in this part of the world. We couldn't stop them sailing there - it's international waters but we would not be happy about it and would not be cooperating with it.

51 posted on 04/06/2014 2:31:28 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

I’m not going to debate this...again.

The fact is that the whole thing is hinky from the get-go courtesy of the Malays and even the satellite data has not been forthcoming. If I were a surviving relative I’d be pissed as hell.

I had already swore off paying any mind to this ‘tragedy’ once but got sucked into it due to the deja vu I was having (relative to a certain episode in 1996 off Long Island) and my last post mocking the new/3rd flight track graphic will more than likely be my last as the whole thing stinks despite efforts to paint it with a white brush and force-fit all the jaggedly-cut pieces issued by the Malays.


52 posted on 04/06/2014 6:45:54 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: MortMan; Sarah Barracuda
Blueplum’s separate, independent backup system may be more workable, but I’m not sure how to power the system - perhaps the emergency bus? Battery power has a tendency to wane on a system that is never used, and therefore be insufficient when the need arises. Latent failure rises to the probability of no longer being latent. From an aircraft design perspective, the requirements for such a system are difficult

the 'pinger' on the engines is self-contained, external to the cabin and powered by the engines. Find a way to slap a gps on it, and voila'. Easy peasy.

53 posted on 04/07/2014 3:55:16 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: MortMan

How about some type of sonar buoy designed to break free from a sinking plane. At least that could give a surface point for reference. Wouldn’t think it would have to be very big and mounted somewhere under the wing.


54 posted on 04/07/2014 4:05:28 PM PDT by shotgun
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55 posted on 04/12/2014 1:58:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: RockyTx

Ok, that is a sick joke.

But I laughed.


56 posted on 04/12/2014 1:59:52 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: naturalman1975

Great post.


57 posted on 04/12/2014 2:01:26 PM PDT by Yaelle
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