Posted on 05/07/2014 8:16:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing
And the republicans are happy as a pig in crap.
We’ll never get rid of the elites by running 7 people against an incumbent. It makes me wonder how many of those “tea party” candidates were plants. Bottom line, they should all get together, pick one and support that one whole heartedly.
As for me, the republicans will never get another vote from me.
LOL!!!
Thank the Washington Times for reporting this story. The free press isn't dead yet.
Sounds like a plan to me. Get rid of them all...
Absolutely correct. This is what the planned articles of impeachment accused Nixon of “planning to do”. Now Barky’s IRS actually does it. There are several differences. The IRS in 1972 was not a partisan nest. It was staffed by professional civil servants whose politics rarely if ever influenced their job. Nixon’s knew this and knew he would have to have SecTres. ask to have this done. Barky’s salvation is that the IRS, indeed most of the federal bureaucracy is filled with partisan hacks who needed no direct order from 1600. There was a Nixon smoking gun but Barky could just sit back and relax, confident in the knowledge things would be done without dirtying his hands.
I don't have "my list" so I can't ping "them" and i am not "defending the IRS" - here is the link to my last post about the IRS, decide for yourself: GOP Prepares Multiple IRS-Related Criminal Charges - FR, post #32, 2014 April 09
all bs :you don't have any info on the incomes of the tea party people the IRS audited
That's exactly my point.
we all know here the IRS auditing 10% of the tea party people is too high and not a coincidence
How exactly do we already "know" this? "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble; it's what you know that just ain't so" - Mark Twain
"a check of those lists reveals that the tax agency audited 10 percent of those donors, much higher than the audit rate for average Americans"
100 percent correct, 99 percent irrelevant — unless you have the facts that show that the only donors to the TP orgs which applied for tax-exempt status were "average" and, furthermore, that they weren't trying to deduct the donations from their tax filings, which would be at least a clear "red flag" for audit, if done before these orgs got the tax exemption.
Now that the House Republicans have those lists, maybe they can ascertain from them that the donors which have been audited don't fit the "profile" of "random" criteria. This would require very careful and tedious work (and potential for invasion of privacy) and will, most likely prove very "technical" and politically fruitless. Which may be unnecessary because there is already more than enough on IRS' abuses of power and political bias and politically motivated decisions and actions, to spend more time and better efforts on connecting the dots that lead to higher echelons of Democratic elites.
You're right Smoothsailng - there are parts of the press that have not rolled over... Thank you Washington Times for being one of 'em....
I think because the only thing binding is legislation that has to be approved by the rat senate and signed by Obama.
Resolutions are non-binding by their very nature. They represent the opinion of the house. But they have no power.
you have no proof that their incomes were that high
rate of audit is .64% for up to $100,000 /year incomes.
IRS audited tea party groups at 10% almost 20 times the
rate of audit,. rate of audit was 20 times what it should be for these average Americans . very unlikely these tea party people were rich as you say or even over $100,000k per year as you say you.
plus all of these people audited were from lists the IRS demanded of the already oppressed tea party groups. yeah sure the IRS would already commit one crime denying them their tax exempt status , then harrassing them and then they become saints and don’t also audit them.bs. just them having that donor list is illegal much less auditing the members on that list as the IRS did for political reasons which is tyranny
doing a lot of spinning and covering up for Obama and the IRS aren’t you
Isn’t it interesting how the people who donate to Conservative candidates get audited, and those who donate to Liberal candidates pay little to no tax, get government contracts, and have their interests represented effectively by their public official?
I DO want to hold the IRS officials and their Democratic enablers and motivators accountable, for their clearly politically motivated abuse of power and malicious persecution of groups and people they targeted but for their actions, not their "mistakes" (which is what they are hoping to be their last line of defense - "Mistakes were made" - if they can't change the subject by capitalizing on Republicans' mistakes and blaming Republicans for "witch-hunt").
"Mistakes" is something they would be happy to plea and cop to.
"How does your political action philosophy differ from what Doormat Republicans such as Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy, Ryan, Issa, Mike Rogers, Peter King of New York have been doing for the last 4 years?"
Some of these names I don't even know, and I don't know if these people — as a group or individually — even have what could be called a "political action philosophy."
What I do know is that usually disagree with the GOP-e leadership on strategy, but occasionally may agree with them on tactics — whether be it the tactical action or inaction, when the poorly thought out action (often demanded by more aggressive members and constituents) is doomed to fail (lack of power, hope vs experience etc.) will deliver more harm than benefit to the Republican and/or Tea Party brand — I don't think I need to recount the examples of those (a few recent Senate campaigns come to mind) - they should be still fresh in our minds.
Both strategically and tactically, Democrats are head and shoulders better and more organized, cohesive and cerebral than Republicans and Tea Party conservatives (some of whom are neither conservatives nor Tea Party — except for the sole fact that they are "not establishment" which seems to be enough for most here but time after time only brings horrible election results and more and deeper divisions among ourselves). Recognizing that fact doesn't mean that I agree with an iota of Democrats' "political philosophy" and I hope that's understood.
Your position seems to be consistent with the Doormat Republicans who are currently refusing to use their Constitutional Power.
I don't see how you could conclude that from my caution not to make hasty "Off with their heads" call well before we know real facts, except for comparing something specific (TP donors' audit rate) to something "average."
"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please" - Mark Twain
"You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts"
Facts is what we need here first, so we don't once again snatch the defeat from the jaws of victory, as Republicans (GOP-e and the TP and the so-cons) are consistently prone to do.
Brute force often fails in war, and very rarely works in politics, especially when you don't have your flanks covered — even Obama and his cohorts are finding that out — brut force victories may be Pyrrhic. Sun Tzu, Niccolò Machiavelli, Saul Alinsky are much more appropriate for political wars.
Myself, I am neither Republican, nor doormat.
If I have drawn any incorrect conclusions about your philosophy, please correct me at your earliest convenience.
I hope above was sufficient, but also see my post #106
Yes, very sufficient. Your honesty is refreshing. Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
True, however what was getting at was that they often specify resolutions as ‘non binding’ just to hear themselves talk and look like something got done when in fact nothing but a show was ever intended. A ‘Sense of the congress’ vote IOW. That’s what I thought this was when the article specified it as ‘non binding’... that it was intentionally that way from the outset.
Exactly my point. It's hard to draw any conclusions when you don't have any proof or any facts.
rate of audit is .64% for up to $100,000 /year incomes.
IRS audited tea party groups at 10% almost 20 times the rate of audit,. rate of audit was 20 times what it should be for these average Americans .
You, basically, just ignored everything I posted. Twice.
Take two buckets of water. One is ice cold, another is boiling hot. Try putting one foot in cold water bucket and another in hot water bucket. On average, you should have a warm water experience.
you have no proof that their incomes were that high. i read about these people .
rate of audit is .64% for up to $100,000 /year incomes.
IRS audited tea party groups at 10% almost 20 times the
rate of audit,. rate of audit was 20 times what it should be for these average Americans . very unlikely these tea party people were rich as you say or even over $100,000k per year as you say you.
plus all of these people audited were from lists the IRS demanded of the already oppressed tea party groups. yeah sure the IRS would already commit one crime denying them their tax exempt status , then harassing them and then they become saints and don’t also audit them.bs. just them having that donor list is illegal much less auditing the members on that list as the IRS did for political reasons which is tyranny
doing a lot of spinning and covering up for Obama and the IRS aren’t you
Yeah, it’s pretty near-fetched, eh?
Where is my Equal Protection?
No, it’s not interesting. It’s criminal.
How much more will We the People put up with?
It is long past time to replace the income tax with the FairTax and abolish the IRS!
Go to http://www.fairtax.org to find out how you can help us!
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