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Two in five Austrians think Nazi era wasn’t all bad, survey finds
World Jewish Congress ^ | 08 May 2014

Posted on 05/09/2014 12:48:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Sixty-nine years after the end of World War II, nearly a third of Austrians would like to have a “strong leader” (Führer) at the helm of their country “who doesn’t have to deal with elections and a parliament”, according to a new study published on Wednesday in Vienna.

Asked about what Nazi rule from 1938 to 1945 had given the country, 36 percent of the 1,015 Austrians surveyed answered “both good and bad things” while three percent said “primarily good things”. […]

A clear majority of respondents (56 percent) said discussions about the Holocaust and the Second World War should now end. This figure was higher than in previous surveys. …

(Excerpt) Read more at worldjewishcongress.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: austria; eussr; historicalrevision; naziera
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To: DocJhn

Mitch, you raise a good point. As an example, Hitler was terrified that his father may have been the illegitimate child of a wealthy Austrian Jew who had hired his grandmother as a maid. So, to hide that possibility he had the village where all of this may have occurred blasted off of the map - paying particular attention to the cemetery, synagogue and church where the evidence may exist.


21 posted on 05/09/2014 4:00:10 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: DocJhn

Mitch, you raise a good point. As an example, Hitler was terrified that his father may have been the illegitimate child of a wealthy Austrian Jew who had hired his grandmother as a maid. So, to hide that possibility he had the village where all of this may have occurred blasted off of the map - paying particular attention to the cemetery, synagogue and church where the evidence may exist.


22 posted on 05/09/2014 4:00:11 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: Timber Rattler

“old German soldiers who felt like they were being wrongly smeared”

They were just following orders.......


23 posted on 05/09/2014 4:00:50 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver

I think some of it is longing for a time when they were more important in the world, and equating that with Hitler.


24 posted on 05/09/2014 4:00:53 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: R. Scott

Take note that the interstates took the form of the largest public works project in the country. Private sector? If they knew how to LOL back then, they would have.


25 posted on 05/09/2014 4:01:14 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: caver

No thought required, much like our zero tolerance policies.


26 posted on 05/09/2014 4:01:31 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Olog-hai

We had a few toll roads but it wasn’t easy to get around.


27 posted on 05/09/2014 4:07:00 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: DocJhn

“Someone correct me if wrong but did not Austria cater to the Germans in WWII?”

They were incorporated into Germany in 1938. In the 1860s two German states (Austria & Prussia) battled for supremacy of the hundreds of smaller German entities, and Prussia won. While they led the new Germany formed in 1871, Austria looked south for an empire (Austria-Hungary, which collapsed after WWI). In 1938 the much smaller Austria joined Germany; as German troops crossed the border to make it so, there can be some questions about Austria’s complicity in it. The allies, who had said this couldn;t happen at the end of WWI, did nothing.


28 posted on 05/09/2014 4:21:38 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Timber Rattler

The German army had little to do with the mass murders; this was mostly done by SS units that followed the combat troops (Einsatzgruppen). The German army tried to keep their independence, and attempted to kill Hitler. Even the Malmedy massacre on the Western Front was perpetrated by an SS unit.


29 posted on 05/09/2014 4:24:48 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
That's a myth. While the average conscripted "Private Joe Fritz" was not directly involved since he was up on the front lines fighting, there's tons of documentary evidence that the German Army, as an institution, collaborated heavily with the SS in carrying out the Final Solution.

Somebody had to round up all the Jews, Romani, and Slavs in the vast Nazi occupied territories for the SS to murder, and it was the Wehrmacht that did it. The Wehrmacht also supplied soldiers and equipment to assist in the mass executions and burials.

That was the point of the Wehrmacht Exhibition, to knock down the myth.

30 posted on 05/09/2014 4:40:06 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The comment said, "wasn't all bad."

They did have very sharp looking uniforms. And the trains ran on time...at least until we started daylight bombing raids.

31 posted on 05/09/2014 4:55:53 AM PDT by D Rider (Don't give sharp objects to small children)
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To: ealgeone

Maybe we should let the 8th AF and Bomber Command pay them a visit or two like we did at Dresden, hamburg, Berlin, etc.

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The 8th AF and bomber command paid a very high price. Not sure we could field enough pilots for the B-17s today.


32 posted on 05/09/2014 4:57:48 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: DocJhn

Austria annexed with Germany early on willingly. So yes, they were on the same side.


33 posted on 05/09/2014 5:16:23 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: ArtDodger
I think most of the ancestors of Austrian Jews left in the late 1930’s early 1940’s for Switzerland. I doubt very few survived to live past the war. They probably also did not pole a lot of Gypsies and over “undesirables”
34 posted on 05/09/2014 6:09:06 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Hitler vas, shore, a fairy badt mann. But at least he luft docs undt schilderns.


35 posted on 05/09/2014 6:17:05 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: ArtDodger

In 1934 there were 176,034 Jews in Austria, or about 9% of the population. In 1951, there were 9,000 or about 0.6% of the population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Austria

The greatest achievement of Austria in the 20th Century was convincing the world that Hitler was a German and Bach was an Austrian.


36 posted on 05/09/2014 6:22:03 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: caver
I'll answer that question. Because they get stuck in a hybrid system of social democracy. You have a system which inevitably locks up into gridlock, because they're trying to do economic planning within a democratic framework. No plan gets majority support, so you have gridlock. The government becomes at once all powerful and all incompetent. It makes promises it knows it can't keep. Just think of Obama's big lie to get ObamaCare passed.

If you follow the law, you're a chump, while the connected, the politicians, the crooks and gangsters all get incredibly weathly, while your situation deteriorates.

Eventually, people look for a strong man to bring the government under control and make it behave rationally.

They never ever try limited government and individual freedon. So, Europe goes through these political cycles.

37 posted on 05/09/2014 6:24:26 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

“Eventually, people look for a strong man to bring the government under control and make it behave rationally.”

That makes sense.


38 posted on 05/09/2014 6:28:26 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

A strange astronomical phenomenon. The dark night of fascism is ever descending on the United States, but it always lands in Europe.


39 posted on 05/09/2014 6:31:41 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Olog-hai

Only 2 of 5?

The Austrian Nazis were so fanatic, the Germans had to tell them to tone it down a notch.


40 posted on 05/09/2014 6:34:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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