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Forest Service says media needs photography permit in wilderness areas
The Oregonian ^ | September 23, 2014 | Rob Davis

Posted on 09/23/2014 9:28:34 PM PDT by hiho hiho

The U.S. Forest Service has tightened restrictions on media coverage in vast swaths of the country's wild lands, requiring reporters to pay for a permit and get permission before shooting a photo or video in federally designated wilderness areas.

Under rules being finalized in November, a reporter who met a biologist, wildlife advocate or whistleblower alleging neglect in any of the nation's 100 million acres of wilderness would first need special approval to shoot photos or videos even on an iPhone.

Permits cost up to $1,500, says Forest Service spokesman Larry Chambers, and reporters who don't get a permit could face fines up to $1,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: censorship; forest; nationalpark; permit; regulations; taxdollarsatwork; youpayforthis
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To: hiho hiho
Ve already have your papers and now ve vant your phoney fiat money involuntary servitude!
41 posted on 09/24/2014 2:08:58 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: hiho hiho

They’re stark raving mad.


42 posted on 09/24/2014 2:16:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: hiho hiho

Punishment: Head chopping with chainsaw for repeat offenders or wood-chipper. 3 clicks and your out for anyone who looks at pictures taken.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.


43 posted on 09/24/2014 2:38:19 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: hiho hiho

FedGov is not on our side in wilderness areas, but it’s not on our side anywhere else either.


44 posted on 09/24/2014 2:46:33 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: hiho hiho
It doesn't remove, deface, or change one atom of the wilderness thus is not an exploitation. The land suffered no harm thus no compensation should be justified nor licensing. Exploiting for gain would be mining, removing plants, trees, minerals, etc and selling same. A photograph is not a mineral from a wilderness nor any element of it. It is a captured image.

Wanna bet one of the high dollar control freak whack groups has "Special Prints" for their high administration cost NPO they are selling as fundraisers and fear their pictures may loose value.

45 posted on 09/24/2014 2:52:45 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: hiho hiho

Time for OPERATION REMOVE COMMUNIST TRASH


46 posted on 09/24/2014 3:22:17 AM PDT by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: Nachum; LucyT

According to the article:..”Under rules being finalized in November,”

Here’s another reason to take the senate: Judge Nap says that if the GOP were to take the senate they could reject regulations while they are in the review stage (they can’t do anything about regulations that have already taken effect, however).

5:45 Minutes
Judge Napolitano: EPA Colluding With Environmental Groups To Shutdown Coal Industry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q9Pn_vokho


47 posted on 09/24/2014 3:37:35 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: hiho hiho

Our ancestors would be shooting and reloading by now


48 posted on 09/24/2014 3:49:53 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fictional)
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To: hiho hiho
Except there's this pesky thing called the first amendment... The only thing I would PAY them is my middle finger...
49 posted on 09/24/2014 3:55:22 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: hiho hiho

I think it’s a good idea. It will keep these photographers away and ensure peace for bears shitting the woods.


50 posted on 09/24/2014 4:03:15 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Pox

The only problem is, most Americans just don’t care or are not inclined to risk “rocking the boat” to do what is right.


You have just described the Republican Party.


51 posted on 09/24/2014 4:04:36 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: hiho hiho

just try to take a photo of a power plant or electric transmission facility. You will meet a lot of new people.


52 posted on 09/24/2014 4:44:03 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: vette6387

Although you would think Wilderness Areas would be unmanaged....I’m not really sure though.


53 posted on 09/24/2014 5:34:58 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: hiho hiho

Tell Ansel Adams...


54 posted on 09/24/2014 5:35:43 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Whenifhow

Are you sure? The legislative veto was declared unconstitutional back in the 1990’s.....


55 posted on 09/24/2014 5:38:34 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Actually, a lot of his stuff was shot while working for the government.

Not all of it..but his national parks series was.


56 posted on 09/24/2014 5:46:21 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: hiho hiho

I take it they are going after the estate of Ansel Adams?


57 posted on 09/24/2014 5:53:50 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (If stupid ever reaches $150 a barrel then I want the drilling rights to Maxine Water's head.)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

The FED govt is full of idiot commies who don’t have a clue about Freedom. These fascists need to be fired immediately. Their intended actions further prove that they are mentally ill and need isolated from society. When the FED morons shut down the national parks last year, they threatened people with arrests and fines if they photographed scenery while driving through Zion on a public highway that they couldn’t close. True pin-headed morons. Fascist fools.


58 posted on 09/24/2014 5:59:02 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: scrabblehack

RE: video post 47 Judge Nap:
Are you sure? The legislative veto was declared unconstitutional back in the 1990’s....
*******
Judge Nap indicates this veto vote is different than legislative veto - this vote invalidates regulations or takes regulation proposals off the table.


59 posted on 09/24/2014 6:00:35 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: hiho hiho

The Department of the Inferior’s National Park Service personnel, the infamous ParcPersons featured in the video Big Park, have been advancing that claim for years. I was at the Cape Canaveral Seashore with a friend, in the parking lot, when a ParcMan aggressively demanded I tell him whether I was a professional photographer or not.

It seems the nasty bureaucrat wanted me to purchase a permit to take a photo. And why did he think I was a professional photographer?

His thinking, such as it was, bears analysis, and the salient points were as follows:
1. His camera looks expensive.
2. Only professional photographers have such cameras.
3. Does that person have a permit?

The Ranger was acting in the aggressive manner of a militarized policeman. He was “taking command of the situation” by starting out in a loud and domineering manner, threatening confiscation of my equipment and fining me. even arresting me.

I told Mr. Armed & Rangerous that barring proof I was a professional photographer, he had no legal reason to question me. I then asked him if he wasaware of a concept called “Presumption of Innocence”. Then, he was also told he would be held accountable for any and all violations of my rights he might be thinking of committing and that he was about to make possible a life of leisure for me should he continued in such manner as there were witnesses to his behavior, and there was no reason for his behavior.

Further, he was told the Constitution of The United States, and of the State of Florida under which he operated (Memorandum of Agreement between FedGov & Florida so placed him) gave him no reason to interrogate, much less threaten, without reasonable suspicion. Equipment cost, especially when such equipment was in a parking lot, was unlikely to a position sustainable in a court, and that he had been so advised.

His move.

ParcMan drove off, muttering.

I recognized the AgencyPerson’s assumption of having the right to demand a permit back in the 1980’s, but as I am Director of a 501C3, non-profit, tax exempt organization, as well as a writer who does not charge for what I write, the Constitution abusing Nature Nazis in the Department of the Inferior so far have decided to not “make my financial day”, so to speak.

Given the institutional stupidity of AgencyPersons, and their culture of aggression towards all who know the Constitution and expect them to act accordingly, I may yet be retired in the manner I fully expect some out-of-control AgencyPerson to actualize for me.

To allow violation of the First Amendment by mere thuggish ParcPersons as a matter of agency policy will one day cause the American public demand reorganization of the Department of the Inferior.

There is a vast amount of data indicating that reorganization will fail, as the Roman, Petronius tells us.

“I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation with reorganization, and a wonderful way it is to produce the illusion of progress while creating demoralization and inefficiency”.

Petronius perfectly describes the problem in the Department of Interior. Remember, Petronius lived when Christ was alive. The problems inherent in bureaucracy were known when Christ walked the earth.

A former Chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, Committee on the Interior, took the time one Sunday to open one of his banks and there gave me an interview in which he made clear his belief that the entire Department of the Interior had no reason for existence as it was then constituted.

The Agency has since then become even more infested with those infected with socialism.

As land is one of the fundamental sources of wealth, and as this agency is clearly aggressively attacking/opposing any profit being derived from such lands, even when such use has absolutely no conceivable negative impact on the land entrusted to them, Park Service must be downsized, decentralized, and privatized.

At present, the National Park Service and the United States Forestry Service are degrading the lands entrusted to them, and they are openly violating the Constitution protected rights of the all Americans.

ParkPersons have successfully destroyed significant parts of the American economy while destroying the productivity of lands entrusted to them. TO allow them to impoverish America and violate our Constitution defined rights is no longer acceptable.

The Founders knew this and they carefully chained the beast of government so that it could not become what is now is. It has fallen upon us to rechain govenment lest it further chain us down into the slavery that is socialism.


60 posted on 09/24/2014 6:25:04 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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