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Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber billed fed and state govts at least $5.9M for advice
Daily Mail ^ | November 14, 2014 | David Martosko, US Political Editor

Posted on 11/14/2014 11:41:50 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Pontiac

> Well if he is a good Democrat he should been happy to give most of that money to the government in taxes.
Right?

Nope. That’s what they think stupid hardworking conservatives are for. To foot the bill so they don’t have to.


41 posted on 11/15/2014 5:45:21 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001
POINTS TO PONDER--Offshore Fraudster had links to offshore fund run by VP Biden's relatives
Reuters on Yahoo | 2/23/09 | BY Ajay Kamalakaran

(Reuters) – A fund of offshore hedge funds run by two members of VP Joe Biden's family was marketed exclusively by offshore firms controlled by Texas financier Allen Stanford, charged by regulators with an $8 billion fraud, the Wall Street Journal said.

The Bidens $50 million fund was jointly branded between the Bidens' Paradigm Global Advisors LLC and the offshore Stanford Financial Group entity headquartered in Antigua, and was known as the Paradigm Stanford Capital Management Core Alternative Fund, the paper said. Stanford-related offshore companies marketed the Biden fund to investors and also invested about $2.7 million of their own money in the fund, the paper said, citing a lawyer for Paradigm.

Paradigm Global Advisors is owned through a holding company by the vice president Biden's son, Hunter, and Joe Biden's brother, James, according to the WSJ. Paradigm's attorney, Marc LoPresti, who represents Hunter Biden and James Biden, as well as Paradigm, told the paper he did not know which Stanford entity invested the roughly $2.7 million. (Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...

NOTE A lawyer for Hunter Biden and James Biden told reporters the Bidens NEVER met or communicated with Stanford. (/snicker)

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STANFORD FINANCES DEMOCRAT CONFERENCE--R. Allen Stanford used offshore corporate money to become a big man at a Democratic convention in Denver. A video posted on the firm's web-site shows Stanford, being hugged by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and praised by former President Bill Clinton for helping to finance a Democrat convention-related forum and party put on by the National Democratic Institute.

"I would like to thank the Stanford Financial Group for helping to underwrite this," Clinton said to the crowd at the event. Stanford Financial was listed as the "lead benefactor" for the gathering, and Stanford was permitted to address the audience of several hundred.

The SEC charged yesterday that Stanford was running a fraudulent offshore investment scheme that may have bilked customers out of as much as $8 billion. Over the last decade, Stanford has spent more than $7 million on lobbyists and campaign contributions to Washington politics in both parties, although the vast majority of the money has gone to Democrats.

"We had no reason to believe that a very public company that was also engaged in philanthropic work might be suspect," said a spokesperson for the National Democratic Institute, Amy Dudley. (Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...

NANCY PELOSI DANCING W/ CON MAN ALAN STANFORD AT DEMOCRAT BIGDO.


42 posted on 11/15/2014 5:50:11 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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Nov. 15, 2014: “....The weeklong #GruberGate, as it has been dubbed on Twitter, comes just as the Massachusetts Health Connector prepares to relaunch its website today for open enrollment after a devastating year that saw residents struggling to sign up for health plans.

Gruber, a Connector board member, told Bay Staters on Thursday to “give us another chance,” but Archambault said the professor is the last thing the embattled panel needs as it seeks credibility.

“It does raise big questions about his ongoing involvement in Massachusetts, sitting on the board,” Archambault said.

Gruber did not return an email seeking comment yesterday and there was no answer at his Massachusetts Institute of Technology office. He has declined multiple requests for interviews this week with the Herald. “

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3227275/posts


43 posted on 11/15/2014 5:54:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Ann Archy

Bingo

And not only were people laughing and others idly not doing anything about it, we are watching it like ashow and you are the first one to mention this vital point

Ibut they’re like congress and they’re like the insurance companies and the AMA.

The only person to react normally is Ted Cruz and he is still getting slammed.

And the voters.

That election, this election, was a rout

The media won’t mention it, the Dems deny it and Obama is freaking out with his attention seeking and the media chases him as if he’s relevant even fox increasing his relevancy.

But the republicans refuse to notice that they are now the power. They don’t want it

Those who have the power to do good and to oppose Obama are quiet and have been. Like grubers symposium buddies and enemies

Cruz is the only one

He and the voters

He knows we re out here

And we need to quit pretending that the bushes ever did anything for us, the only republicans in the White House since Reagan


44 posted on 11/15/2014 5:58:48 AM PST by stanne
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To: nathanbedford
"Conservative America is forced to fund propaganda against itself."

That's not nearly the worst of it. When the GOP had the White House, Senate and House, they did nothing to de-fund the Left. When I get fundraising letters (not so much anymore) from the GOP, I'd write a note of them to stop funding their and my political opponents through taxation.

First the GOP taxes us, then it gives the money to Leftwing activists and organizations, then it asks us for money to fight the Left. Is there something wrong with this picture?

45 posted on 11/15/2014 6:04:16 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
his HHS connections in an article for the New England Journal of Medicine

Actually this is academic fraud and grounds for revoking his tenure at MIT (few things are, but this is one of them).

46 posted on 11/15/2014 6:06:07 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Good point.


47 posted on 11/15/2014 6:07:44 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

As a legal question, is it possible to recover some of this $5.9 million, as the contractor has now admitted that he supplied fraudulent work to the government? And that he lied to the Congress, to the CBO, to the Media and to the American People expressly to get a piece of legislation passed? How is that not fraud?


48 posted on 11/15/2014 6:09:11 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Junk Silver

You got it, we payed him nearly six million dollars to LIE. If I were smart enough to know how to bid against him I would have lied for only four million, three hundred and twenty seven thousand, two hundred and sixty three dollars and twenty seven cents and I would have told a much better lie.


49 posted on 11/15/2014 6:09:32 AM PST by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: nathanbedford

“What is the difference between Jonathan Gruber and National Public Radio?”
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Gruber is just one liar rather than hordes of liars lying in shifts.


50 posted on 11/15/2014 6:11:13 AM PST by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The ‘Gruber Microsimulation Model’ is what he sold to the White House. It helped Obama’s team anticipate what the influential Congressional Budget Office (CBO) would say about various features of the final plan – and whether their costs would officially be considered ‘taxes.’

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I wonder if he had a separate model for Supreme Court.


51 posted on 11/15/2014 6:16:09 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 867V309

If lying kept people awake most of the rat party and much of the GOP would be dead from sleep deprivation.


52 posted on 11/15/2014 6:16:19 AM PST by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is just another example of the two critical ways we need to look at anything liberals are involved in:

1. Cui Bono or who benefits ,when bs surrounds and covers up or shrouds their overt or covert actions with any activity with libs in control of where money and power can be gained.

2. Follow the money after #1.


53 posted on 11/15/2014 6:16:52 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: AndyJackson
1. Is there anyone at MIT who would take this on?

2. Could MIT Alumni/donors bring this up and force the issue?

3. Could there be a lawsuit to recover the funds received by MIT as part of the Gruber "work"?

54 posted on 11/15/2014 6:18:44 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: nathanbedford

Excellent summation of how libs advance their causes and fund them with our tax $’s. You might consider putting this on your home page.

“Conservative America is forced to fund propaganda against itself.

The left has managed to tax us conservatives in order to pay for think tanks called universities, radio propaganda called National Public Radio, television propaganda called Public Broadcasting, endless television advertising by Public Service Unions while at the same time deploying government agencies such as the IRS to muzzle conservative organs of opinion.

The left uses tax dollars to gin up studies to rig CBO reports upon which it bases legislation to obtain more tax dollars from a deceived public. It will soon fashion regulations designed to enable them in time to censor the Internet.

Jonathan Gruber is but a metaphor for the whole stinking spoils system.


55 posted on 11/15/2014 6:19:52 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: BigBobber
A little editing on your excellent summary re Gorebull Warmers:

Someone needs to investigate what all the Gorebull Warming shills are making from us.

It will be trillions of $'s.

56 posted on 11/15/2014 6:21:48 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: Lacey

“Or am I just seeing things through partisan glasses?”
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Nope, it’s real, the rat party NEVER accepts responsibility for anything, they look for a republican and say, “He did it!” One thing I find amazing is that when Bill Clinton was impeached by the house and went to trial in a Senate which refused to convict him even with an open and shut case against him it was reported by news media that he was, “The first ELECTED president to be impeached.” Now, a few years later, most Americans seem to think that Richard Nixon was impeached and it appears in writing that Nixon was impeached even though at the time that Nixon resigned TO AVOID IMPEACHMENT, no one said he was impeached, only that he almost certainly would have been had he not resigned. I am seeing history rewritten.


57 posted on 11/15/2014 6:24:51 AM PST by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

6 Grubergate videos so far make Nixon’s little missing tape minutes look like a sniffle in preschool.

First You Tube link to Gruber bragging about lying to stupid American Voters about ObozoCare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI

Second Grubergate Video link to Gruber bragging about how stupid American voters are/were to pass ObozoCare.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/12/gruber-video-2-no-really-american-voters-are-stupid/

Third Video from Herr Gruber on stupid Americans wanting Obozocare.

http://weaselzippers.us/205230-three-strikes-third-video-of-obamacare-architect-jonathan-gruber-calling-americans-stupid/

Fourth Grubergate video from Herr Gruber re stupid Americans.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?292478-1/health-care-reform

Remember zero Republicans in Congress voted for ObozoCare. Every stupid rat in Congress voted for it without reading the bill or caring what was in it.

Fifth Grubergate video from Herr Gruber re stupid Americans, Fifth Video Emerges, Showing Gruber Mocking Man Worried About Obamacare

http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/14/fifth-video-emerges-showing-gruber-mocking-man-worried-about-obamacare/

Sixth Grubergate video from Herr Gruber re stupid Americans.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/14/the-hits-keep-coming-gruber-video-6/


58 posted on 11/15/2014 6:26:01 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Four U.S. states and the federal government have padded Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber's wallet to the tune of $5.9 million since 2000, including millions connected to his work on the Affordable Care Act

And he earned every penny.

59 posted on 11/15/2014 6:26:03 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

“2. Could MIT Alumni/donors bring this up and force the issue?”

Charles Koch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Koch
Wikipedia In 2012, a series of web videos was compiled into the film Koch Brothers Exposed, ..... 1967), MIT grad who invented method of refining gasoline from heavy oil.

David H. Koch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Koch
Wikipedia He went on to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), earning both a bachelor’s


60 posted on 11/15/2014 6:28:56 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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