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Administration denies Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli warplanes
Washington Times ^ | 3/1/15 | Jeffrey Scott Shapiro

Posted on 03/01/2015 10:04:55 PM PST by Nachum

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To: Nachum

I don’t expect them to admit it. In fact, to me, their denial just makes the charge more creditable. I know that they are capable of doing such a thing.

41 posted on 03/02/2015 4:22:31 AM PST by sport
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To: laplata

Amen to that!

42 posted on 03/02/2015 4:23:14 AM PST by sport
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To: caww

“Saudi Arabia is apparently prepared to allow Israeli jets into its airspace to conduct attacks on Iran.”........

The Saudi’s will let them pass over (sorry, couldn’t resist that one) but will they join them in the attack? I doubt it very much. We all know that during Desert Storm, the Saudi’s allowed the U.S. to defend them against Iran, now they are allowing Israel do the same by allowing Israel to attack their potential enemy Iran.

You can fight MY battles for me but don’t expect me to join in.

43 posted on 03/02/2015 4:41:27 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Nachum

liar liar pants on fire

44 posted on 03/02/2015 4:41:44 AM PST by yldstrk
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To: caww

Ohh yeah, that would be a expression worth a thousand words on his face if Russia were to do this.
Imagine him on CNN,ABC,NBC,SeeBS,MSNBC losing his temper and cool going into his Adolf Hitler rant, taking on about how Israel deceived him and hurt poor old Iran.
Entertainment value would be worth watching.

45 posted on 03/02/2015 4:45:00 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipeline Project : build it already Congress !)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Did you see this?

EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Hezbollah Flag Raised at Anti-AIPAC protest

This is similar to what Americans here did who were sympathetic to the Nazis back in the 1930s.

46 posted on 03/02/2015 4:54:21 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Nachum

Lurch is simply a pathological liar!!!

47 posted on 03/02/2015 4:59:34 AM PST by ontap
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The status of forces agreement having expired, and the US having no obligation to defend Iraq, the President would be taking us into a non defensive war. However this fits nicely with the Whitehouse description of Bibi as a chickenshit for not attacking Iran. Clearly the WH was taking credit for facing him down. Some threat must have been made. As I suspect threats are being made now. Related threads

Obama Threatened to Shoot Down Israeli Jets Attacking Iran

48 posted on 03/02/2015 5:00:10 AM PST by SJackson (“ISIS is now going to regret this … because King Abdullah is not Barack Obama, Rep. Duncan Hunter)
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To: snoringbear

You are precisely right. Our pilots would not fire on Israeli pilots. Perhaps that is why the generals are all being replaced with transvestites, so they can call their Iranian “buddies” and let them know the IAF is coming. Obama is Iran’s early warning system.

49 posted on 03/02/2015 5:15:32 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: Nachum

Imagine this had actually happened and Obama had given shoot down orders to US military forces. First would US commanders have followed such an order or would they have mutinied since Israel posed no threat to US forces? Second would the State Department have warned Iran even to the point of sharing classified intelligence about an Israeli raid? Lastly what would have been the reaction in Congress to Obama’s sinister if not treasonous act? I would bet that even with this dastardly abuse of power the GOP leadership would have squelched any talk of impeachment and the MSM would have been praising Obama for his actions.

50 posted on 03/02/2015 5:32:36 AM PST by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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To: Nachum

When it comes to “he said, she said” stories like this one, an American President’s administration can rely on the President’s carefully honed reputation for candor and truthfulness to act as an antidote to scurrilous accusations.

Too bad that Obama can’t tap into that, huh...

51 posted on 03/02/2015 5:50:31 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Nachum

Just in from Joel Rosenburg’s e-mail:

Something curious is happening in the Middle East.

Amidst President Obama’s repeated moves to withdraw American military power and influence from the Middle East and “pivot” to Asia, ....three regional leaders in the epicenter are forming a quiet, unexpected but fiercely determined alliance....To protect their people against two existential threats, one posed by the Shia Radical Islamists of Iran, the other posed by the Sunni Radical Islamists of ISIS.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu;
Jordan’s King Abdullah II; and
Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi.

They are meeting secretly. They are talking regularly by phone, as well as with other leaders in the region from Saudi Arabia to the Gulf. Their senior advisors are also in regular contact, coordinating moves to counter their most serious enemies...... They are NOT waiting for Washington. Indeed, they often see the White House and State Department as less than helpful, and sometimes opposed to — or not truly understanding — their national and shared interests.

Two U.S. officials told me of a meeting they had with President el-Sisi in Cairo last year. The Egyptian leader told them he had a better working relationship with Netanyahu than with President Obama.

Netanyahu, King Abdullah and el-Sisi have come to realize that President Obama and his administration do not fully appreciate the magnitude of the threat, and that the Obama team is not fully committed to taking decisive action to neutralize the threat.

52 posted on 03/02/2015 5:57:39 AM PST by COUNTrecount (Race Baiting...... "It's What's For Breakfast")
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To: sport
This denial from someone who admittedly has no clue what is going on around him until he reads it in the paper months after the fact is very telling.
The usual response is to neither confirm or deny these types of issues.

There may or may not have been an actual threat, but I have no doubt the idea was floated especially in light of Zbigniew Brzezinski's statement from 2008:

“...“We are not exactly impotent little babies. They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?...

“We have to be serious about denying them that right, If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not. No one wishes for this but it could be a ‘Liberty’ in reverse....”

Now why would they have “no choice” but to turn back?

I do not believe O would give such an order. I tend to think it is bluster. But a question just the same:

does anyone think an actual order such ad this given by the (barf!) CIC would make it down the chain of command?

Interested in what our military minds think.

53 posted on 03/02/2015 6:00:03 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Nachum

Bet you won’t see AF 1 near Israel for two years.

54 posted on 03/02/2015 6:51:20 AM PST by Vaduz
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55 posted on 03/02/2015 6:55:42 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: "Hmmm...things are getting wild and crazy."

That's sort of putting it mildly. :)
56 posted on 03/02/2015 8:30:28 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......but alas! Honor must be earned...)
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To: snoringbear

I agree.

There is going to be some kind of major showdown with the POS Obama.

57 posted on 03/02/2015 9:16:44 AM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: keat

I think the Netanyahu speech tomorrow is going to slap Obama right in the face and wake up a lot of people.

Obama is going to have a hard landing and most of the Dems will step back and distance themselves from him.

58 posted on 03/02/2015 9:21:06 AM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: willywill

No one in the military is compelled to follow an illegal order, never mind who gives it or wherever the hell it comes from.

59 posted on 03/02/2015 9:40:12 PM PST by Dapper 26
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