Posted on 03/29/2015 2:43:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
David Dies fears that if Gov. Scott Walker succeeds in eliminating the Wisconsin Educational Approval Board, the for-profit schools it oversees will ramp up practices that could harm students.
If you basically throw the rule book out, I can guarantee you that they will take advantage of their ability to market and recruit as aggressively as possible, said Dies, the boards executive secretary.
The proposal to eliminate the EAB is part of Walkers proposed 2015-17 budget. Since its unveiling in February, Dies has been trying to persuade state lawmakers to reject the idea.
Dies said his small agency is already outmatched by the private, for-profit colleges it oversees. Behemoths like the University of Phoenix and Globe University are a far cry from the mom-and-pop schools that dominated the sector 20 years ago.
Walker believes dumping the EAB will benefit schools by eliminating a costly and unnecessary regulatory burden, according to his spokeswoman, Laurel Patrick.
But Dies said his agency does not in fact cost the state money its operations are funded by fees to the schools and that the vast majority of schools do not support the agencys demise.
Almost every institution is confused as to why we would want to do this, Dies said. The EAB oversight really provides some legitimacy and integrity for the sector.
In a position paper detailing his views, Dies wrote that Walkers budget proposal would leave Wisconsin as the only state in the nation without any meaningful oversight for private postsecondary education institutions.
Wisconsin Sen. Stephen Nass, R-Whitewater, who serves on the Senate education committee, is still mulling whether or not to support the proposal, said his spokesman Mike Mikalsen.
We think the EAB does some very important stuff, but we have some concerns about how the EAB carries out its business, Mikalsen said. He cited a 2012 proposal to require schools to graduate at least 60 percent of their students as an example of the board being too aggressive.
Dies said the proposal, which matched national accreditors standards, was intended as a starting point to having a conversation, but died in the face of resistance from legislators and schools.
Colleges have drawn criticism
The Wisconsin Educational Approval Board oversees 252 for-profit and certain nonprofit postsecondary schools, enrolling about 60,000 students. Outside its jurisdiction are the UW System and technical, religious and recreational schools.
For-profit schools that seek approval from the EAB must pay fees, submit detailed information about their finances, enrollment and programs, and have a student complaint process.
Walkers proposal would eliminate the seven-member board and its six full-time and one part-time staff positions, as well as its $605,000 annual budget.
Its remaining responsibilities would be divided between the state Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection and the Department of Financial Institutions and Professional Services, newly created in the budget.
This proposal is part of the governors overall goal to streamline state government to make it more efficient, more effective, and more accountable, Patrick said.
For-profit colleges have come under growing scrutiny in recent years, accused of aggressive, misleading marketing, selling worthless degrees and leaving students with debts they cannot pay.
A 2010 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that recruiters lied to its undercover agents at all 15 campuses it investigated. Colleges were hit by lawsuits and U.S. Senate hearings, CEOs were called onto the carpet by their accreditors, and the U.S. Department of Education came out with a package of federal standards designed to prevent problems.
States have faced criticism from national and local education experts for failing to thoroughly review schools operating within their borders.
Lax state oversight must end, said the nonprofit National Consumer Law Center in a 2014 report, which recommended states avoid relying on accreditation as a substitute for oversight.
Dies said he has long asked for more resources. The agency lacks in-house counsel despite a near-constant need for legal advice, and the staff is hard pressed in dealing with giant for-profits.
When you come into a meeting, they have three to four attorneys across the table, Dies said. Thats where it gets difficult, because they look at us and say, Who are these guys telling us how to improve our business model?
The increase in online schools poses a problem, as some have failed to seek state licensure before enrolling Wisconsin students. The EAB can barely get to the schools and approve the schools that were responsible for now, even with the addition of a full-time and part-time staffer in 2012, Dies said.
But he maintains the agency has still been able to help students. When Anthem College closed its Brookfield campus in August 2014 displacing 150 students the EAB helped move equipment and some students to nearby Milwaukee Career College in Wauwatosa.
Will students be more vulnerable?
Oversight of higher education in the United States is often described as a triad of the federal government, states, and regional or national accreditors. States are charged with authorizing schools and responding to student complaints.
We want to make sure, whatever that process is, that states have some process to vet these institutions that theyre good enough for serving residents of the state, Dies said.
State statutes require the EAB to track school data, visit campuses and review curriculums, among other responsibilities. According to the budget proposal, DATCP would handle student complaints, while DFIPS would authorize schools to operate in the state.
Only schools with students taking federal financial aid would need authorization from DFIPS. Smaller institutions with no students receiving federal aid would not need approval to operate in the state.
The budget proposal says all the EABs necessary functions will be transferred, but Patrick did not respond to a question about how those were defined.
Dies is concerned that some oversight requirements curriculum and program reviews, refund policy requirements, and disclosure of costs and policies may simply end.
Stephanie Cellini, an economics professor at George Washington University, said Wisconsin led the nation at tracking data on what happens to students. She worries the data would deteriorate if the EAB were eliminated.
It seems like EAB was doing the right thing, she said. Wouldnt it make sense to add staff to EAB?
Small schools support agency
The operators of two small schools said they hoped the EAB would stick around.
Laura Ehmann, the CEO of Midwest Maternal Child Institute, which has had a total of 17 enrolled students in Milwaukee since 2012, said she still plans to say her school is EAB-approved should the proposal pass, to distinguish her school from fly-by-night midwifery schools that lack approval.
Having the states approval is a big deal for schools, Ehmann said. The rigorous process we have to go through to get approved is absolutely what we wanted.
Jerry Klabacka, president and CEO of Diesel Truck Driver Training School with 718 enrolled students in Sun Prairie since 2012, said, I think its an unnecessary, unproductive, almost destructive piece of legislation.
He saw competitors behaving badly in the past taking federal money despite high default rates, failing to do credit checks, and milking the soup lines in Chicago for students with the lure of cash.
The industry needs regulation, said Klabacka, whose family has run the school for 50 years.
EAB at work
Another small school under the EABs jurisdiction is the Wisconsin School of Professional Pet Grooming, in Oconomowoc, with two instructors and 20 enrolled students since 2012. Recently, four students lodged complaints against the schools director, Delores Lillge, alleging harsh, demeaning criticism and personal attacks, hitting a misbehaving dog on the head with a metal comb, and calling a student with disabilities a dummy.
EAB staffer Pat Sweeney wrote Lillge a scolding letter describing the students concerns and directing the school to address them. And he helped the students negotiate a partial refund and certificates of completion, to which three out of the four agreed.
Lillge said she agreed to small improvements but denies the students allegations and said a confidentiality agreement prevented her from discussing the matter.
The EAB is designed to prevent complaints like those to the pet grooming school, Dies said. If it is eliminated, he predicted, complaints are going to increase significantly.
One is consumer protection, the other is a new financial agency. You remove one agency crafted to oversee for-profit schools and institutions and replace them with two agencies who are not. And you say that protections will improve. Nonsense.
Why are you taking this in the opposite direction? What if, DoD goes to Homeland Security? That is a strawman argument.
No it isn't. It's also an example of dividing the responsibilities of one agency and splitting it between two others who have no history of managing those kind of services. How would you expect that to work? Not well.
Walker isnt a dictator - the Wisconsin legislature is in play.
It's Walker's budget.
“But Dies said his agency does not in fact cost the state money its operations are funded by fees to the schools and that the vast majority of schools do not support the agencys demise.” ( from the article)
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Translation!
Someone pays for it! The cost is passed on to the student in the form of higher tuition.
That “Vast Majority” are the established schools who want to shut out competition.
“For-profit colleges have come under growing scrutiny in recent years, accused of aggressive, misleading marketing, selling worthless degrees and leaving students with debts they cannot pay.”
The Wisconsin EAB apparently thinks Wisconsin post-secondary students are dumb, immature, idiots and neither able nor expected to make responsible adult decisions for themselves, with or without consulting responsible adults in their lives.
This is more of the “all failures can be prevented” crowd, that thinks YOU are not responsible for the choices YOU make; SOMEONE MUST prevent you from making bad choices, you cannot be held responsible for them.
“a $500 fee due in September with the renewal application; and
a second payment which is a percentage of the school’s adjusted gross annual revenues minus refunds paid to students.”......”
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The students pay that in the form of higher tuition.
Yes! And it's a good look at his vision. The legislature is reviewing it; the Left is panning it; it will be voted on. Then Walker will sign it.
Yes!
Yes!
Shrink government oversight and regulation.
Too many generations now have been seduced, then trapped, by this Nanny State mentality, becoming like the Eloi.
“The students pay that in the form of higher tuition.”
GREAT point!
Bits and pieces of that don't make a lot of sense. Should we not comment on them?
I’m sorry that you can’t find something to like.
bttt!
In this particular matter? No, I don't see anything to like in it. It's short-sighted, eliminates a service the state has been providing and which legitimate state-based businesses find helpful, saves nothing in the way of spending, and will no doubt be twisted by those opposed to Walker as evidence that the governor is anti-education. It is in all respects a bad decision.
An interesting article:
“......In truth, critics say accreditation by itself doesn’t mean much. Although the U.S. Department of Education has a formal system of recognizing accrediting agencies that meet government standards, that recognition is not required by law. So there are multiple suspect accrediting outfits giving phantom schools their seal of approval.
That is part of the gray zone of regulation and law in which diploma mills operate and claim that they operate legally. But occasionally the authorities pounce.
Fourteen years ago, Sen. Susan M. Collins of Maine, working with federal investigators, successfully ordered a bachelor’s and master’s degree from Lexington University the same name as the school where Terrence Carter received his discredited doctorate before applying to lead New London’s schools. That led to a crackdown on federal employees who had received degrees from diploma mills with the fees sometimes reimbursed by U.S. taxpayers.
Records from just three schools obtained by the General Accounting Office identified 463 federal employees who had pursued degrees from diploma mills, including 28 senior-level employees working at such agencies as the National Nuclear Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security. But after that initial burst, the hunt for fake diplomas in government stopped.
It’s impossible to know how many subpar diplomas are being used today to qualify for jobs, or for higher pay. In Connecticut, as in most if not all states, public educators typically receive automatic pay increases if they hold advanced degrees. But there is no repository of the claimed academic credentials of the state’s teachers and administrators. That leaves it to individual districts to vet their employees, although a search of online resume sites reveals several Connecticut educators claiming degrees from schools considered to be diploma mills....”
http://projects.courant.com/degree-of-deception/#navtype=outfit
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