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Board overseeing Wisc's for-profit schools fights for its life [EAB looks like a shakedown outfit]
Wisconsin Watch ^ | March 29, 2015 | Madeleine Behr and Kate Golden

Posted on 03/29/2015 2:43:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife
These agencies are designed to address these issues. Big Education needs to butt out. They want to control of every aspect of our lives.

One is consumer protection, the other is a new financial agency. You remove one agency crafted to oversee for-profit schools and institutions and replace them with two agencies who are not. And you say that protections will improve. Nonsense.

Why are you taking this in the opposite direction? “What if, DoD goes to Homeland Security?” That is a strawman argument.

No it isn't. It's also an example of dividing the responsibilities of one agency and splitting it between two others who have no history of managing those kind of services. How would you expect that to work? Not well.

Walker isn’t a dictator - the Wisconsin legislature is in play.

It's Walker's budget.

21 posted on 03/29/2015 5:51:52 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“But Dies said his agency does not in fact cost the state money — its operations are funded by fees to the schools — and that the “vast majority” of schools do not support the agency’s demise.” ( from the article)
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Translation!

Someone pays for it! The cost is passed on to the student in the form of higher tuition.

That “Vast Majority” are the established schools who want to shut out competition.


22 posted on 03/29/2015 5:53:20 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“For-profit colleges have come under growing scrutiny in recent years, accused of aggressive, misleading marketing, selling worthless degrees and leaving students with debts they cannot pay.”

The Wisconsin EAB apparently thinks Wisconsin post-secondary students are dumb, immature, idiots and neither able nor expected to make responsible adult decisions for themselves, with or without consulting responsible adults in their lives.

This is more of the “all failures can be prevented” crowd, that thinks YOU are not responsible for the choices YOU make; SOMEONE MUST prevent you from making bad choices, you cannot be held responsible for them.


23 posted on 03/29/2015 5:58:57 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“a $500 fee due in September with the renewal application; and

a second payment which is a percentage of the school’s adjusted gross annual revenues minus refunds paid to students.”......”
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The students pay that in the form of higher tuition.


24 posted on 03/29/2015 6:00:54 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: DoodleDawg
It's Walker's budget.

Yes! And it's a good look at his vision. The legislature is reviewing it; the Left is panning it; it will be voted on. Then Walker will sign it.

25 posted on 03/29/2015 6:03:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Wuli

Yes!

Yes!

Shrink government oversight and regulation.

Too many generations now have been seduced, then trapped, by this Nanny State mentality, becoming like the Eloi.


26 posted on 03/29/2015 6:07:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: wintertime

“The students pay that in the form of higher tuition.”

GREAT point!


27 posted on 03/29/2015 6:08:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yes! And it's a good look at his vision.

Bits and pieces of that don't make a lot of sense. Should we not comment on them?

28 posted on 03/29/2015 7:01:47 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

I’m sorry that you can’t find something to like.


29 posted on 03/29/2015 7:25:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: knarf
.....America's demise is squarely at the feet of the NEA and tributarial agencies

bttt!

30 posted on 03/29/2015 7:45:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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I’m sorry that you can’t find something to like.

In this particular matter? No, I don't see anything to like in it. It's short-sighted, eliminates a service the state has been providing and which legitimate state-based businesses find helpful, saves nothing in the way of spending, and will no doubt be twisted by those opposed to Walker as evidence that the governor is anti-education. It is in all respects a bad decision.

31 posted on 03/29/2015 7:53:14 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: bigbob; All

An interesting article:

“......In truth, critics say accreditation by itself doesn’t mean much. Although the U.S. Department of Education has a formal system of recognizing accrediting agencies that meet government standards, that recognition is not required by law. So there are multiple suspect accrediting outfits giving phantom schools their seal of approval.

That is part of the gray zone of regulation and law in which diploma mills operate — and claim that they operate legally. But occasionally the authorities pounce.

Fourteen years ago, Sen. Susan M. Collins of Maine, working with federal investigators, successfully ordered a bachelor’s and master’s degree from Lexington University — the same name as the school where Terrence Carter received his discredited doctorate before applying to lead New London’s schools. That led to a crackdown on federal employees who had received degrees from diploma mills — with the fees sometimes reimbursed by U.S. taxpayers.

Records from just three schools obtained by the General Accounting Office identified 463 federal employees who had pursued degrees from diploma mills, including 28 senior-level employees working at such agencies as the National Nuclear Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security. But after that initial burst, the hunt for fake diplomas in government stopped.

It’s impossible to know how many subpar diplomas are being used today to qualify for jobs, or for higher pay. In Connecticut, as in most if not all states, public educators typically receive automatic pay increases if they hold advanced degrees. But there is no repository of the claimed academic credentials of the state’s teachers and administrators. That leaves it to individual districts to vet their employees, although a search of online resume sites reveals several Connecticut educators claiming degrees from schools considered to be diploma mills....”

http://projects.courant.com/degree-of-deception/#navtype=outfit


32 posted on 03/29/2015 8:40:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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