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To: dangus

“Going on hard against communism, or soft against Nazism?”

Ask Putin, because his father reportedly served as a turncoat Cossack Lieutenant in Vlasov’s Russian volunteers for the German NAZI Army as they murdered countless Polish, Jewish, and other people on behalf of Hitler’s NAZI Germany.

““The Great Patriotic War” supposes that fighting on the side of the Soviets, Britain and the United States was patriotic.”

That is quite wrong. Even today you can go to the Russian encyclopedia entry for “the Great Patriotic War” published by RT and find not one word in the article acknowledging any role whatsoever played by Britain, France, and the United States in winning the patriotic defeat of NAZI Germany. You certainly will not find them ever mentioning how the Western allies accomplished more to defeat NAZI Germany than Russia ever did. You also wind no mention of how Russia was a co-conspirator and ally of NAZI Germany in beginning the war in the period 1939-1941. Nowhere to be found in the Russian history of the war is story of how Russia was also responsible for killing up to one fourth of all the Allied military personnel killed in the war.

“But the Ukraine had a lot of collaborationist and Nazi wanna-bes.”

After Russia had just committed the Holodomor genocide against the Ukrainians in which millions of Ukrainians were murdered by the Russians, the survivors of the Russian murders had little choice but to seek help to survive from the first enemy of Russia to come along who could possibly help them, sometimes like Putin’s father.

“And Russia argues that the backbone of the new junta includes a lot of people who glorify the anti-Soviet but pro-Nazi fighters of WWII.”

Russia is a proven liar and a bunch of genocidal maniacs. The accusation that today’s Ukrainian government is a junta is yet another example of Russian lies, false propaganda, and disinformation being used to resume the mass murders of Ukrainians that Russia left unfinished before the so-called Great Patriotic War interrupted the genocidal exterminations of the Ukrainians by the Russians.


18 posted on 04/24/2015 1:46:10 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
I don't know who to believe, the Ukrainian propaganda I first found when reading about Putin's father, or the Wikipedia entry on Vlasov, but it seems that Vlasov might gave been the closest thing to a good guy in the USSR-Nazi conflict, if not purely an opportunist whose opportunities led him to taking a good-guy posture. There's even a memorial to him in New York.

But I'd be interesting in reading how Russia was responsible for killing up to one fourth of all the allied military personnel.

>>>> But the Ukraine had a lot of collaborationist and Nazi wanna-bes.

>> After Russia had just committed the Holodomor genocide against the Ukrainians in which millions of Ukrainians were murdered by the Russians,

Absolutely true. But the problem is that Ukrainian nazi-wanna-bes ai was referring was Swaboda. Their idols were far less interesting in liberating Russia than they were in convincing Hitler that they'd make good little Nazis by killing all the Poles and Jews they could get their hands on. THey were formed in the 1990s as the Socialist-Nationalist Party.


19 posted on 04/24/2015 7:56:43 AM PDT by dangus
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