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Some background on John Ehrlich, long time collaborator (along with his wife Anne Ehrlich) with Obama's Science and Technology Adviser, John P. Holdren.

Progressive policies are squeezing the life out of the economy, they are on the home stretch - John P. Holdren wants to "de-develop the country"

"“Resources must be diverted from frivolous and wasteful uses in overdeveloped countries to filling the genuine needs of underdeveloped countries," Holdren and his co-authors wrote. "This effort must be largely political, especially with regard to our overexploitation of world resources, but the campaign should be strongly supplemented by legal and boycott action against polluters and others whose activities damage the environment. The need for de-development presents our economists with a major challenge. They must design a stable, low-consumption economy in which there is a much more equitable distribution of wealth than in the present one. Redistribution of wealth both within and among nations is absolutely essential, if a decent life is to be provided for every human being.” - White House Science and Technology Adviser, John P. Holdren.

2009: The Electronic Journal of Sustainable Development: The Population Bomb Revisited - by Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich

"....Some of the lowest birthrates are now found in the rich, fully industrialized nations of Europe and in Japan. That’s fortunate in one respect because it is the high-consuming rich nations that place the greatest pressure on humanity’s staggering life-support systems (Ehrlich and Holdren 1971, Ehrlich and Ehrlich 2005).

The big exception is the United States, which is a center of over-consumption and whose population continues growing because of a relatively high birthrate (average family size about 2.1 children, compared with 1.4 in Italy and Spain and 1.3 in Germany and Japan) and high immigra-tion rate (4 per thousand, with Italy the same, Spain 7, Germany 0, and Japan 0). The nation has recently been in the strange position of debating immigration policy without ever discussing population policy...."

Ehrlich P. and J. Holdren. 1971. Impact of population growth. Science 171: 1212-1217.

Ehrlich P., Ehrlich A., and J. Holdren. 1977. Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment . San Francisco: W.H. Freeman and Co.

February 19, 2015: GLOBAL CITIZENSHIP NECESSARY & POSSIBLE?

"With the continued buildup of greenhouse gases and the continued apathy of governments towards the lethal results of human population growth, Paul and Anne Ehrlich believe that a potential environmental storm is building up to bring down civilization....

..... Can much of the world population come to understand that humanity’s current dilemmas of environmental destruction, inequities, unemployment, and declining democracy, are not largely an accidental result of cultural evolution, but are rather mostly the consequences of deliberate planning, by those in charge, to increase their own wealth and power? Can they move dramatically to close the gap between the rich and poor that is especially dramatic in developing nations, and growing in many rich ones, especially the United States?....

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.....The MAHB’s [mahb.stanford.edukey] strategy is threefold: foster collaboration between natural scientists and social scientists to better understand the issues; build understanding of what we call ‘foresight intelligence’—the ability of individuals, institutions, governments, and society to act (behave) in ‘future smart’ ways; and engage civil society (individuals and organizations), already concerned about collapse, in ways that ‘strengthen’ the political impact of their endeavors. In short, the MAHB’s main goal could be said to help generate a bottom-up program to produce large numbers of global citizens, who, in turn might be able to divert society from its suicidal course. The odds of success seem small, but what choice does any ethical person have but to try?"

1 posted on 06/20/2015 12:28:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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I expect that many of the extinct species were actually discovered by splitter biologists that existed only on the papers written to enhance career prospects


78 posted on 06/20/2015 4:32:54 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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...but I have “Progressive” insurance, the protects me from loss of home, car, boat due to Armageddon.
79 posted on 06/20/2015 4:34:01 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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Great posts, links, discussion. BUMP!


84 posted on 06/20/2015 4:49:21 AM PDT by PGalt
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Exactly. If there is a movement to curtail waste, let’s start with Hollywood celebrities and government officials. Look at the pigs in the White House first.


85 posted on 06/20/2015 4:50:09 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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Not quite everywhere.

As modern life and more efficient food production occurs, especially in modern, 1st world countries with mechanized agriculture, nature is making a big comeback.

New England sees a return of forests, wildlife

Not only are the forest returning, so is the wildlife, even the big animals; moose, bear, panthers, wolves...

Still, it won't be exactly like the world the original colonists encountered...

Why?

Those noble Native Americans, peaceful sages of mother nature and her forest primeval; regularly started forest fires to burn down undergrowth and otherwise make the landscape better for hunting larger animals...

Yes, the tom-tom beating, circle dancing, dream catcher making original hippies altered the natural world to suit them, just like the evil white men!

90 posted on 06/20/2015 4:59:55 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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>There was a (minor) spike in extinctions at the time of the discovery of previously isolated islands, because of the inadvertent introduction of more competitive species from the continental mainlands of the world. Except for that, we’re not talking about anything major. Mass extinction is another liberal lie.

https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/extinctions_birds_mammals_historical.jpg

Oh, while I’m on the subject, why didn’t the Holy Spirit use his direct line with the Pope to warn us about the vulnerability of native species in real time, so we could have made an informed decision; and, instead condemns us afterword for what was an innocent mistakes?


92 posted on 06/20/2015 5:07:22 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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The new study, published in the journal Science Advances, shows that even with extremely conservative estimates, species are disappearing up to about 100 times faster than the normal rate between mass extinctions, known as the background rate....

This started in 1493 - the start of the homogenocene era when species of flora and fauna that had been separated by oceans, mountains and deserts started being transported and established on distant shores. It has picked up considerably with our now nearly complete global trade system.

Hardier invasive species are displacing native species. There's your extinction. The weak must adapt or die.

94 posted on 06/20/2015 5:10:59 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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Erlich is a scientific jackass. He is the classic Malthusian chicken little and he’s consistently wrong over decades of idiot declarations.


99 posted on 06/20/2015 5:22:10 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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Ice ages, continental drift, extinctions and severe climate change are a part of nature. Nothing humans can do or not do will change this.

New England and Northern Europe were covered by glaciers. The Sahara Desert was once under water.


102 posted on 06/20/2015 5:48:19 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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105 posted on 06/20/2015 5:54:56 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Paul Ehrlich, will hopefully be recycled soon.


115 posted on 06/20/2015 6:16:56 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Barack Obama is not inarguably sane.)
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Everything is already dead, even humans are extinct, just as predicted decades ago. Due to our lack of action on doomsday predictions, we are actually living (or are we dead? comatose?) in the virtual world of the Matrix and don’t even know it.

You would think that after millennia of doomsday predictions NOT being true, hoaxsters and their adherents would hide their heads in shame.

In some schools of thought, I, as a Christian, am another doomsday adherent as I believe in the Second Coming of Christ. Perhaps I’m just another hypocrite.


117 posted on 06/20/2015 6:28:47 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy. Cruz, that is. Texas conservative.)
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I wonder how many new species were discovered during this time?


118 posted on 06/20/2015 6:29:43 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Barack Obama is not inarguably sane.)
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They just keep making assertions not supported by reality. Yes some minor species are being lost today but that has always been the case whether it be via the encroachment of man or not. Mother nature of which I would assume these “scientists” would acknowledge humanity is a part of has when we exclude the hand of man been a very harsh and unforgiving mistress with countless behemoths and other great beasts ending in the dustbin of history.

I don’t know anyone who doesn’t want to conserve and protect nature in a reasonable fashion but the fact is even if man were not here many of the extinctions of low population creatures and even some of the larger ones would happen anyway for it is the way of survival of the fittest and sometimes simply survival of the fortunate. The idea that some how the climate or the ecosystems have ever been static assumes something that has never existed on this planet. Yes we should try our best to avoid causing apocalyptic change to the environment and its species but there is no indisputable evidence that we are and for all the angst about how horrible humanity is we are the first species to our knowledge who ever took time out of rutting , eating and surviving to give a damn and when the time comes it will be man not the bunny rabbits that for the first time in Earths history have the capability to stop asteroids from resetting the Earth’s species/environmental clock so in the end it will most certainly be man and his evil technology that saves all those wonderful species that is if environmentalists don’t stall technologically development and make all their own efforts one big cosmic joke.


119 posted on 06/20/2015 6:32:59 AM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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...entering a mass extinction that threatens supports humanity's existence...
...Species are disappearing....


Humans are now the king of the Planet.
The animals we need - increase, the ones we don't need - decline


120 posted on 06/20/2015 6:59:01 AM PDT by Koracan
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Dan Brown even wrote about this...


128 posted on 06/20/2015 7:44:01 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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"…...said Paul Ehrlich, the Bing Professor of Population Studies…."

Couldn't he at least be the Google Professor of Population Studies?

134 posted on 06/20/2015 8:41:38 AM PDT by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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Gloom & doom.
139 posted on 06/20/2015 10:02:24 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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bkmk


149 posted on 06/21/2015 3:06:13 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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