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Posted on 07/18/2015 12:53:28 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001

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To: 4Zoltan
Maybe when 6085 comes up for sale the realtor will list it as Obama’s birth home. That will make it official.

:)

Obama is one of only 4 presidents who didn't have a "birth home." He was born in a hospital. I'm finding this quest to locate the "birth home" most amusing.

81 posted on 07/22/2015 2:24:26 PM PDT by CpnHook
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To: Fantasywriter

Nor does he list any other sources for the address of the Dunhams.

Except of course for the Honolulu City Directory.

He lists two sources. Period. Of course not counting your “fantasy” sources.

Again all you have shown is that SAD entered her parents’ address (an address that she lived at least until February, 1961) on his birth certificate. Wow


82 posted on 07/22/2015 2:27:52 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: CpnHook

Absolutely.

Can you image if someone presented a real estate brochure as proof of Obama’s birth home.


83 posted on 07/22/2015 2:29:24 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: CpnHook

So according to you, both Bushes, Clinton, Reagan, and Carter were all born at home? All have ‘birth homes,’ though I would have imagined they were born in hospitals.

You have no idea what the term means. But you know all about it regardless. Such are obots.


84 posted on 07/22/2015 2:41:47 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

G. W. Bush, Clinton, Carter, and Obama are the only Presidents born in hospitals. All others were allegedly born at home.


85 posted on 07/22/2015 2:45:16 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Everything in my original post is true. You bluster and flail, yet you don’t touch the original fact. Obama’s BC lists, as a home address for SAD, an address at which she was not living. Anyone who can grasp this basic fact holds the key to the truth re Obama’s birth. Obots cannot grasp it. It is simply beyond them. Others are not so slow, and can figure It out.


86 posted on 07/22/2015 2:47:29 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: 4Zoltan

Yet all of the above have ‘birth homes.’ Like others on this thread you don’t know what the term means.


87 posted on 07/22/2015 2:53:55 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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So according to you, both Bushes, Clinton, Reagan, and Carter were all born at home? All have ‘birth homes,’ though I would have imagined they were born in hospitals.

The Elder Bush was born in a home in Milton, Mass. I would term that his "birth home." (When one has a home birth, it's in a birth home. Get it?)

Reagan was born in a second story apartment above a commercial building in Tampico, IL.

Carter, Clinton, and G.W. Bush were born in hospitals.

You have no idea what the term means.

It's not a defined term. As a matter of general usage, "birth home" would designate the place of birth when that is in a home (i.e., not a hospital). For example, here's a photo of Reagan's birth home. This is in contrast to Reagan's Boyhood Home which is the house in which he grew up.

So Stanley Ann may not have been residing in the home listed on the long form certificate. So what? It's an immaterial point insofar as the eligibility question is concerned when birth at the hospital has been duly noted.

88 posted on 07/22/2015 3:22:07 PM PDT by CpnHook
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To: CpnHook

From my post 76:

On my very first try, this came up along with a magnificent image:
“Built in 1901, this 3-story historic structure was designed by Hartford architect Edward T. Hapgood in an elaborate expression of the Colonial Revival style and is the birth home of George W. Bush.
block-kahan.com”

That listing came up from searching: ‘George w bush birth home.’

Read the listing carefully, twice if necessary. You just might pick up on the term, ‘ birth home.’


89 posted on 07/22/2015 3:28:56 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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Except again you have presented zero proof that she didn’t live there.

Yes, SAD, Obama Sr. and Obama II did not live there. That is what Maraniss wrote. He did not say that SAD and Barack II did not live there. Even though that is what you keep saying.

So you are left with the 50 years old memories of Cindy Pratt who was 13 years old in 1961.


90 posted on 07/22/2015 3:47:09 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter

And what is Carter’s birth home? And is there a plaque?


91 posted on 07/22/2015 3:53:54 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter
Read the listing carefully, twice if necessary. You just might pick up on the term, ‘ birth home.

And for all I know, the realtor pitching that property may have believed our 43rd President was born there. And it's doubtful the realtor has the right property. In that listing, it's designated as 281 Edwards Street. However as the NY Times reported:

George W. was born to Barbara and George Bush in what was then Grace-New Haven Community Hospital and is now Yale-New Haven Hospital. The new baby's first home, according to Herbert Parmet, his father's biographer, was 37 Hillhouse Avenue, a one-family house that had been converted into apartments for veterans and their families.

See also Wikipedia -- Hillhouse Avenue ("Graves-Gilman House (now 37 Hillhouse), 1866. Victorian Italian Villa. Home of Sheffield professor, Daniel Coit Gilman. Converted into apartments for married Yale students (1946–1957). George H. W. Bush lived here while he was a student and his son lived here until the age of two.")

Yes, those presidential "birth homes" pop right up, except when you find the wrong one.

But, again, since Obama wasn't born in a home and since he didn't spend more than a few weeks at any place in Hawaii before Stanley Ann headed to Washington State, it's no surprise there isn't much attention made to whatever residence he may have momentarily had in Hawaii.

92 posted on 07/22/2015 4:08:01 PM PDT by CpnHook
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You’re becoming incoherent. According to you, Maraniss wrote that, ‘Obama Sr, Ann and the baby didn’t live there, but Ann and the baby did.’

This is what happened the last time you got onto this subject. Your brain melted. Maraniss is as plain as any Obama-phile could be. And no, of course you’ll never figure it out. You’ve gone from splitting hairs to (attempting) to split atoms.

And you’re no good at it.

[As to Carter, I searched his ‘ birth house’ and it popped right up. Stop wasting my time.]


93 posted on 07/22/2015 4:17:37 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: CpnHook

Add to that the fact that the parents’ home address is irrelevant to presidential eligibility, particularly after 54 years.

There are four elements to documenting Article II Section 1 eligibility via a birth certificate: (1) place of birth, (2) date of birth, (3) official certification, and (4) governmental seal.

Also, there is no state in the union and no federal law that requires a candidate or a president to document their eligibility by using a birth certificate. Under federal statutes, a U.S. passport is the preferred form of evidence to be presented to document citizenship status and identity.


94 posted on 07/22/2015 4:29:49 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Fantasywriter

Carter moved there at age of four.


95 posted on 07/22/2015 4:32:24 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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You two need to stop working so hard to prove my point. You locate the houses where various presidents were taken home to after their hospital birth, and it’s simple to do online.

Except with Obama. There is no online write up of his first house/the one he was brought home to. Yes, there were such stories back in ‘08. But since research debunked the original/BC house, there has been no update. Obama had no first house.

He and his BC are frauds.


96 posted on 07/22/2015 4:43:35 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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“You’re becoming incoherent. According to you, Maraniss wrote that, ‘Obama Sr, Ann and the baby didn’t live there, but Ann and the baby did.’

Wow talk about incoherent. This is exactly what happened the last time we had this discussion - you just started to make stuff up. Remember your ‘Polk Directories have a secret methodology that only I know about’.

Here is what I actually said,

“He [Maraniss] did not say that SAD and Barack II did not live there.”

Just like you telling me that Maraniss never said that Cindy Pratt was his only source. He never said that SAD and baby didn’t live at 6085, he did say that SAD, Barack Sr. and baby did not live at 6085.


97 posted on 07/22/2015 4:49:16 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Lol. So you’re still in a snit because I didn’t share my Polk info with you. Amazing!

I summarized exactly what you are saying. According to you, Maraniss said that while Sr, Ann and baby never lived there, Ann and baby did.

You’re unhinged.


98 posted on 07/22/2015 4:54:52 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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“There is no online write up of his first house/the one he was brought home to”

CNN has a video on it.

What more updating does it need than that. Especially considering he lived there two to three weeks.


99 posted on 07/22/2015 5:03:02 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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Glad to see you admitted you made up the Polk stuff, I knew that already.


100 posted on 07/22/2015 5:04:22 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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