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Is the Defensive Shotgun Still Relevant?
luckygunner.com ^ | 9/24/2015 | Kyle Eggimann

Posted on 09/25/2015 8:38:43 AM PDT by rktman

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To: saleman
Roger that1. Need lots of head shot practice though. 😂
81 posted on 09/25/2015 11:17:34 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

I like my Saiga 12 with MD Arms 20-round drum mag. Loaded with hexolit 32 slugs alternatively with Rhodesian jungle shot. Has a green laser for night-time target acquisition.

Vepr 12-gauge shotguns are available new at $800- that’s the only one I’d trade my Saiga for. Vepr shotguns and their AK platform rifles are made to AR tolerances- very smooth and accurate.


82 posted on 09/25/2015 11:31:56 AM PDT by Dindoo Nuffin
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To: Pollster1

The difference in recoil is directly related to those ft-lbs.


83 posted on 09/25/2015 11:46:51 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Dindoo Nuffin

Nice but be careful when boating.


84 posted on 09/25/2015 11:51:22 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Resolute Conservative
An AR type weapon in the house begs for collateral damage. Shotgun or handgun.

i learned in my AR class that there is less penetration of walls with an AR than a 9mm. still need to mount a light on mine.

85 posted on 09/25/2015 12:26:33 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
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To: rktman
Is the Defensive Shotgun Still Relevant?

It surely is to a bad guy staring down the barrel of one. 8^)

86 posted on 09/25/2015 12:32:18 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: rktman
Nice but be careful when boating.

+1 - I lost all my guns in a terrible surf canoeing accident many, many years ago. :)

87 posted on 09/25/2015 12:33:40 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I miss my dad.)
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To: Blueflag
The difference in recoil is directly related to those ft-lbs.

Agreed. I am perfectly comfortable firing a .45 ACP using just one hand. I would not care to try it with a 12 gauge.

88 posted on 09/25/2015 12:43:19 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

You could do it once! ;-)


89 posted on 09/25/2015 12:49:56 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: PapaBear3625
If he's on the ground, but still has a handgun in his hand and is still conscious enough to potentially raise his arm and fire, then he remains a legitimate target for another round.

If someone assumes the prone position, that could be taken as the most accurate position for shooting at an innocent person. If they are still a threat, you have a legal right to defend yourself in almost all jurisdictions. The trick is talking with a lawyer before talking with anyone else, and then properly and accurately describing the events to defend your actions.

90 posted on 09/25/2015 12:50:51 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Blueflag

I’m too old to be stupid once. I leave that to my kids.


91 posted on 09/25/2015 12:53:27 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: facedown

The only thing bigger than the bore of the .22 were my eyes! (Like I said, that .22 looked like the bore of the 16” guns on the New Jersey)


92 posted on 09/25/2015 1:08:06 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

All one ever sees is the gun. In a gun crime investigation the bad guy could be wearing a clown suit, riding a llama and all anybody saw was the BIG gun he was pointing at them. Could have been a .22 derringer but it looked like a howitzer.


93 posted on 09/25/2015 1:21:55 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Each to his own but I keep much lighter loads in my tactical 870 at least for the first couple shots.

I’ve had to shoot varmints in my yard out to 25 yards with 8-shot dove loads in the small 870 and the pattern holds surprisingly well.

In the house one (me) is unlikely to be more than thirty feet from an intruder, based on my floor plan. At thirty feet even 8-shot is going to be a very tight pattern. If you hit the target you are going to do serious damage.

I do keep heavier loads in the tube too, a couple 2 3/4” mag rounds, then a three-inch 4-shot, then a couple of double-ought buck, just in case the attacker is moving and shooting.

If I’m hiking in grizzly country I alternate a few double-ought buck rounds with the rest big 600-grain slugs.


94 posted on 09/25/2015 1:48:24 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Pollster1

LOLOLOL

Tru.


95 posted on 09/25/2015 1:51:44 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: SteveinSATX
The Taurus M92 with 18" barrel in .357mag is a fine rifle. A 180 gr .357Mag produces about 2190 FPS. More potent than an M1 Carbine and nicely matched with an S&W 686+ 4" side arm for common ammo with enough ooph to take down a deer. A T/C Encore in 460 S&W Mag pairs with the S&W 460 Mag revolver as a sidearm. Similar combo with S&W 500 Mag. On the smaller side, 9mm pistol & rifle. Makes the 9mm useful to 100 yd. There is one pair I avoid. T/C Contender in 30-30 with level action Winchester 30-30. Way too much recoil for the weight.

For all the toys in the box, the only one I use for food is my old .22LR bolt action. It has put many cotton tail rabbits on my dinner table.

96 posted on 09/25/2015 4:36:45 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: archy

870 came with a 30” RemChoke. Great bird gun. Added an 18” RemChoke with iron sights. Works great with buck and a cylinder bore choke or slugs with a rifled choke (on a paper plate at 100 yds). If I could only have one, that might be it.

Hope yer good!


97 posted on 09/25/2015 4:39:41 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: rktman
Gun porn on a Friday evening - great stuff!

All this stuff is hugely subjective so it's a "all a matter of taste" AFAIC. I had an 870 that I wanted to set up for home defense so I built it out similar to the ugly black beast in the center:

It works for me!

98 posted on 09/25/2015 6:32:56 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: MileHi
870 came with a 30” RemChoke. Great bird gun. Added an 18” RemChoke with iron sights. Works great with buck and a cylinder bore choke or slugs with a rifled choke (on a paper plate at 100 yds). If I could only have one, that might be it.

I'm down to four. One per vehicle, plus one real near the front door.

Hope yer good!

Still limping a little. But I'm laughing too, so it's all okay.

99 posted on 09/30/2015 8:50:19 AM PDT by archy
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To: Joe Boucher
Centurion ammo. One big ball bearing, Surrounded by about 15 smaller ones. Ouch.

Or the new stuff, can't immediately recall the trade name, with two balls in the 3-inch loading. Or, in the 31/2-inch, three.

Seems like it'd chew up plywood targets pretty quick with a semi. Or with a Winchester Model '97 with the trigger held back.

100 posted on 09/30/2015 8:52:54 AM PDT by archy
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