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Sources suggest the Benghazi attack was a bungled abduction attempt (2012)
Examiner blog ^ | 11/15/12

Posted on 10/17/2015 9:10:51 PM PDT by Carismar

Retired Four-Star Admiral James “Ace” Lyons, one of the guests on “Lou Dobbs Tonight” this past Wednesday evening, suggests the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi, Libya on September 11 was the result of a bungled abduction attempt. Admiral Lyons, whose career in the United States (U.S.) Navy was capped by two years of service as the Commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet from 1985 to 1987, thinks this kidnapping was planned to be the first stage of an international prisoner exchange. This transfer of prisoners would have ensured the release of Omar Abdel Rahman, the “Blind Sheik” convicted of orchestrating the World Trade Center Bombing in 1993. Lyons' analysis of the evidence led him to the failed kidnapping conclusion. Admiral James Lyons suggests the Obama administration intentionally lessened the levels of security at the consulate compound in Benghazi in the weeks leading up to the attack. This plan should have worked to reduce the possibility of resistance as the Ansar al-Sharia terrorist organization captured Chris Stevens, the American Ambassador to Libya.

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TOPICS: Canada; Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia; US: South Carolina; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1993; 20120911; benghazi; blindsheikh; clinton; gowdy; libya; omarabdelrahman; rahman; wtcbombing
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Yeah, but did a member of the Administration (for whatever reason) pull the trigger on an operation that caused the death of these men, and why? This may be our only chance to get some shade of the truth; otherwise it ends up being like the Warren Commission.


21 posted on 10/17/2015 9:53:37 PM PDT by Carismar
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To: TigersEye

Actually I didnt but I always believed the key to this story is the Blind Sheikh


22 posted on 10/17/2015 9:55:41 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Carismar

The blind sheikh is living out his final days in a federal prison in the piney woods of North Carolina.


23 posted on 10/17/2015 10:02:26 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I wonder if Stevens ever had any clue that Hillary would risk his life in such a way ..??

But, this question continues to plague this investigation, and I sure hope they can find somebody who can verify what Obama was really up to .. and that he orchestrated it ..??

Or, was this Hillary’s idea .. and Obama agreed .. or else Obama didn’t know she was planning on doing this.

Hmmmm ..?? I wonder if by chance some information has been found in those pesky emails .. showing the fix was in to sacrifice Stevens.


24 posted on 10/17/2015 10:04:20 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: The Final Harvest

We seem to be missing all Hillary’s e-mails for the 30 day period during the Benghazi episode.


25 posted on 10/17/2015 10:07:04 PM PDT by Carismar
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To: The Final Harvest

Remember that Hillary’s IT guy has taken the Fifth.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/423508/what-will-public-make-hillarys-former-it-staffers-decision-take-fifth-shannen-w


26 posted on 10/17/2015 10:13:25 PM PDT by Carismar
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To: The Final Harvest

You don’t remember the gay gossip about stevens and the head of his administration? Hillary may have thought she was queen but she still had to take orders from valerie.


27 posted on 10/17/2015 10:13:46 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Carismar

Hmmmmm ..?? Well .. I guess we have all guessed correctly. The whole thing was a mess (as all liberal plans are), and it’s probably much worse then we expected.

No wonder I keep getting emails from somebody “supposedly” with the “Tea Party” who says they have a petition they want me to sign, in order to draft Trey Gowdy into the Speakership.

Every time, I send a reply saying that I’m for that .. but not until Trey Gowdy finishes the Benghazi investigation. THEN, I end up getting a msg from my email server saying the msg could not be delivered.

Which means, that was not the answer they were looking for.

And .. thanks to Mr. Cummings, the race is on to try to stop the investigation all together. WE CANNOT ALLOW THAT.


28 posted on 10/17/2015 10:15:47 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: super7man

The article says Hillary ordered additional security but Obama refused it, and Hillary now refuses to release written documents proving that because it might hurt her in the primary for “betraying” Obama.

Her reasons for not releasing them sound like a real stretch to me. That’s the least believable part of this story. But if the whole story is true, it only helps Hillary.


29 posted on 10/17/2015 10:21:19 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Carismar
Admiral Lyons, whose career in the United States (U.S.) Navy was capped by two years of service as the Commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet from 1985 to 1987, thinks this kidnapping was planned to be the first stage of an international prisoner exchange.
Who cares what he "thinks"?
30 posted on 10/17/2015 10:22:21 PM PDT by lewislynn (Meghan Kelley...#sand--Rosie, the Don was right-- Hillary, lipstick on a pig)
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To: JediJones

Supposedly ordering the extra security was supposed to give her cover, plausible deniability.


31 posted on 10/17/2015 10:26:13 PM PDT by Carismar
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To: lewislynn

Nobody is saying that it’s more than a working theory.


32 posted on 10/17/2015 10:27:47 PM PDT by Carismar
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To: huldah1776

I thought the rumor was about Stevens and Smith ..??

I didn’t hear anything else; and I don’t know if any of it is true.


33 posted on 10/17/2015 10:30:18 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The Blind Sheikh or that hairy dude.


34 posted on 10/17/2015 10:36:24 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Carismar

I think he has part of the puzzle. Understanding these people way better than I wish to; here is how I think things would have played out if all went as planned:
Money and arms to create ISIS. An attack on the embassy annex would secure the transfer of surface to air missiles without the State department fingerprints. The ambassador would be kidnapped. The Blind Sheik would have been released. The ambassador would not be released. The Seals rescue the ambassador. Obama is portrayed as a hero and his polls go up right before the election. Obama is re-elected. Despite things going astray; they got everything they wanted, except the Blind Sheik. And they just kissed off the ambassador. He was expendable. The Predator was on station overhead so they could watch all of this go down in real time. There are some key pieces of the puzzle to be gained by looking at the totality of the Predator mission and interviewing the operators and commander. Predators are slow. It did not respond to the attack, it was scheduled.


35 posted on 10/17/2015 10:41:37 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Carismar
What does it matter why?

Are we going to listen to Hillary or Muslim apologists until we're so numb with confusion that we'll just forget the whole thing?

You aren't just a little suspicious why this clown is coming out NOW with his "thoughts" why. No evidence, just planting some "thoughts".

Oh wait, I know. Now that everyone forgot about the youtube lie. It's now going to be, they weren't really terrorists, they were bumbling "abductors", That's why Hillary didn't have advanced intel. After all how was she supposed to know?

Before long it will be SHUT UP ALREADY WITH THE BENGAZI STUFF---GET OVER IT...And we will...Before the election.

36 posted on 10/17/2015 11:01:00 PM PDT by lewislynn (Meghan Kelley...#sand--Rosie, the Don was right-- Hillary, lipstick on a pig)
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To: Carismar

It was about getting weapons into the hands of their terrorist buddies


37 posted on 10/17/2015 11:02:01 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Carismar

FINALLY!!!...someone besides me says it!!

Now tell me again who gave the stand down order and WHY???


38 posted on 10/17/2015 11:12:32 PM PDT by M-cubed ( Their hope is to find a way to pick a nominee who, if elected, would actually stay the course the w)
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To: super7man
don't connect the dots!!!...lol....Think about it!.....the military didn't know Bergdahl was a deserter????
39 posted on 10/17/2015 11:17:12 PM PDT by M-cubed ( Their hope is to find a way to pick a nominee who, if elected, would actually stay the course the w)
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To: Carismar

That’s in many ways, my point. It would be entirely possible for this to be a Warren commission, where there are deep anomalies that will not be let out for 50 years (which is longer than I plan to be sticking around) that we’ll never really know about.

*My* point is that if the focus is on “what happened” and “whose story best describes what happened” and “who is to blame for what happened” then Hillary doesn’t do time.

I’d like to find out the truth; however, that is a slim possibility. I’d also like HRC to go to jail. That, too, is a slim possibility. I would be happier with HRC in jail rather than thinking I know the truth. But that’s just me.


40 posted on 10/17/2015 11:25:20 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This space for rent.)
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