How the F.B.I. Can Detain, Render and Threaten Without Risk

The New York Times ^ | 03 Nov 2015 | Patrick G. Eddington

[Theoria]

At exactly 5 p.m. on March 13, 2007, just as I was preparing to leave my cubicle in Washington for the day, I got a phone call from the journalist Jonathan Landay of McClatchy Newspapers. To this day, I remember his exact words.

'One of your congressman’s constituents is being held in an Ethiopian intelligence service prison, and I think your former employer is neck-deep in this.'

The congressman was Rush Holt, then a Democratic representative from New Jersey, for whom I worked for 10 years starting in 2004. The constituent was Amir Mohamed Meshal of Tinton Falls, N.J., who alleges that he was illegally taken to Ethiopia, where he was threatened with torture by American officials. My “former employer” was the Central Intelligence Agency, but it soon became apparent that the agency “neck-deep in this” was the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Eight years after Mr. Meshal’s rendition, his case ended up before a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. The questions hanging over the proceeding were: can the United States government allow, or even facilitate, the rendition of an American citizen to another country for interrogation? And can United States officials themselves conduct rendition and interrogations of American citizens, including threats of torture, on foreign soil?

According to a decision[PDF] handed down last week, the answers appear to be yes. If this decision stands, it will mean that an American citizen overseas who is unlawfully targeted by the United States government for rendition, interrogation and detention with the help of a local government will have no form of redress in the courts.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

I used to understand that communist regimes were evil, but the US was the good guy on the world stage.

That was then.

Now, Russia is saving Christians, bombing terrorists, etc...

And we torture our own, spy on the world, impose a US legal framework on other nations and so much more.

We are one more bad President away from totalitarianism
We are far too close to economic disaster - generational catastrophe.
We are exiting the world stage in every way in which we dominated.

[zeugma]

I have serious doubts the FBI would knowingly be involved in in this sort of activity.

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Wiping eyes, thanks, I needed a good laugh.

[G Larry]

Let’s establish that I’m neither sympathetic to the plaintiff’s cause, not the gov’ts motives or actions.

If I were the plaintiff I would employ a baseball bat to redress my grievances.

(as I wouldn’t want to give rise to further restrictions on the Constitution, by my actions)

[B4Ranch]

>> I have serious doubts the FBI would knowingly be involved in in this sort of activity.<<

You’re joking?

Former FBI agent Roy Lindley Devecchio goes on trial for helping Colombo crime family capo Gregory Scarpa Dr., engineer four gangland killings between 1984 and 1992.

nydailynews.com/news/crime/fbi-agent-trial-mob-tied-murde...

[Stentor]

I have serious doubts the FBI would knowingly be involved in in this sort of activity.

After 7 years of the fish rotting from the head?

[marktwain]

“What should be the limits of actions the US can take against its own citizens who aid organizations that want to kill Americans?

Something short of execution, after a trial, of course.”

So a U.S. government agent could question a U.S. citizen being held by a foreign government.

Why wouldn’t they do so?

[TheDon]

Personally, I prefer execution, after a trial. ;^)

[piasa]

Patrick Eddington , the author, is a member of Ray McGovern’s group VIPS - these are the folks who with Daniel Ellsberg, have unlawfully been encouraging government employees to expose classified information, [regardless of who gets killed as a result.]
Ray’s group is connected to the Lyndon LaRouche cult.