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To: ClearCase_guy
One of my really big American Values is "the rule of law".

Illegals should be deported. It's what the law demands.

The law also demands that those being deported are entitled to a hearing or hearings before an immigration court judge. There are only about 300 of them. Three hundred judges and eleven million illegals. Do the math.

6 posted on 11/11/2015 6:40:14 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Then maybe that law should be changed. Why should an illegal immigrant be entitled to a hearing. If he is here illegally why should he have any entitlements at all. The only time a hearing should be afforded is if there is some question about his citizenship.


11 posted on 11/11/2015 6:49:25 AM PST by eastforker (The only time you can be satisfied is when your all Trump.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Fine. You can appoint or deputize thousands of judges on a temporary basis. And you won't need to deport 11 million or 20 million or whatever the h3ll the real figure is.

After the first couple hundred thousand are booted out, the remainder will quickly get the message just as they did in the Eisenhower era and start packing. We can even sweeten the pot by providing transportation, box lunches and even small cash payments (payable at their nearest U.S. Consulate 90 days after they arrive home) for those who opt to waive their rights to a hearing. Start with, say, $1000 per person and ratchet it down as each quota is filled.

As for the old saw " . . . it would tear communities apart", the reality is that it would actually build communities in their countries of origin, reunite families and move people from overcrowded congested areas like Los Angeles to underdeveloped places like Mexico, which has roughly the same population density as Tennessee.

12 posted on 11/11/2015 6:50:44 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: DoodleDawg

I guess you are right everything is impossible let’s just give up.


13 posted on 11/11/2015 6:53:34 AM PST by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Hearings only apply to Central Americans, not Mexicans.


16 posted on 11/11/2015 6:56:34 AM PST by BradtotheBone (Record number of people on welfare. That's the State of the Union under Obama.)
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To: DoodleDawg

So as soon as a person sets one foot across our border they are entitled to a hearing. The law also says we have to provide healthcare, food, education to them also. So, according to you, that means we have to just sit back and let these millions of invaders bankrupt our country because it’s the law. After the bankruptcy and fall of our country, then what do you believe the solution is, following the law and doing the math of course?


19 posted on 11/11/2015 6:57:36 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: DoodleDawg

come on now, make it so they self “deport” by having punishment for formal deportation severe and self deporting gives them a chance to reenter legally...

carrot and stick.

currently 94 to 97% of criminals do not go to trial but plea bargain

most illegal aliens opt for voluntary return in lieu of formal deportation. once formally deported there are restrictions on returning legally or illegally. All we have to do is take away entitlements for illegals and many will leave, the rest if formally deported cannot apply for legal status but if they leave voluntarily can apply...etc...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1326


30 posted on 11/11/2015 7:10:34 AM PST by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: DoodleDawg
The law also demands that those being deported are entitled to a hearing or hearings before an immigration court judge. There are only about 300 of them. Three hundred judges and eleven million illegals. Do the math.

~100 years.

41 posted on 11/11/2015 7:44:15 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: DoodleDawg
Do the math.

Most of us have.

We all think that no matter what you say, your guy Bush is sunk.

44 posted on 11/11/2015 8:23:34 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Private sector job creator. Have a government contract with the private sector to locate and remove those here illegally using the same rules as bounty hunters and bondsmen.

A few thousand dollars to per head is still a whole lot cheaper than supporting the invaders and their “families” for 3 or 4 or 5 generations as we have been. The implementation of this along with the elimination of welfare payments of any kind combined with pressure on the business leaders who employ these invaders will solve the problem.

In the meantime...we build...we build a big beautiful wall.
Along both borders if need be. And have only a dozen entry points for legal immigrants that we may need to fill a void or two. Frankly we should have a stoppage of ALL immigration for a minimum of 24 months so that we may get our house in order.

We need to clean up after a series of break ins.

JMH&CO. :-)

53 posted on 11/11/2015 9:25:29 AM PST by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: DoodleDawg

Laws can be changed or eliminated.
If I recall correctly slavery was once acceptable under the LAWS in force at the time.
Times change, people change, and LAWS change.
If I break into your house to steal your stuff or hurt you; the LAW demands that I have a trial, and if convicted, be sentenced.
If you blow a 12 gauge hole through me when you catch me, do I still get a trial?
And if so, why? What’s the point of the law when it is no longer needed or wanted?


54 posted on 11/11/2015 9:31:16 AM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: DoodleDawg
Three hundred judges and eleven million illegals. Do the math.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, before the recession, the number of people with jobs peaked at 146.2 million in September 2007. Today, 147.3 million people have jobs.

With 94,000,000 workers having left the work force and only 147 million working out of a population of 325,000,000 what do you calculate the true unemployment rate to be? Now remove probably 40,000,000 illegals from you calculation and recalculate.

60 posted on 11/11/2015 12:20:57 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: DoodleDawg
Three hundred judges and eleven million illegals. Do the math.

Rush pointed out today that Harry Truman deported oner twice as many as did Ike. Bet you didn't know that.

From 1920 until 1969 The US had zero legal immigration, did you know that?

61 posted on 11/11/2015 12:26:47 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: DoodleDawg
"The law also demands that those being deported are entitled to a hearing…

Nonsense. Are you saying Obama has done so for every Illegal he has sent back?

Even IF we choose to do so, there is nothing saying they need to be in the country while they await their case to be heard.

Also, I'm betting most will opt to just leave with what they have rather than risk losing it to court costs/fines.

73 posted on 11/12/2015 6:51:33 AM PST by moehoward
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