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Thanksgiving is a Time for Caring, for the Children of the Incarcerated
Townhall.com ^ | November 26, 2015 | Timothy Head

Posted on 11/26/2015 8:08:37 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: RKBA Democrat
Our children were born in 63, 66 and 72. It was a different world back then. One of our nephews and his wife had 2 of their own and then adopted 2 from Africa. One from Nigeria and one from Ethopia. It has worked out great, they are wonderful boys.
41 posted on 11/26/2015 1:29:56 PM PST by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Then how should nonviolent offenders be punished?”

1. Take their stuff. If they have a pot to piss in, take it and auction it. BUT ONLY as part of a judicial process.

2. Fines and restitution.

3. Electronic handcuffs, curfew, electronic monitoring, community service, chain gangs.

4. Consider a return to corporal punishment.

5. Start thinking real hard about what should and should not be felonious conduct.


42 posted on 11/26/2015 1:32:24 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Look closely at any evil and most times you'll find the unmistakable handprint of caesar.)
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To: mouse1

I grew up around an addicted family member. I’m well aware that the family gets screwed. In spades.

That said, the state has done zip to fix addiction other than squander your and my dollars, in large amounts, to implement judicial “solutions” that don’t work. But it will continue because it’s profitable. Far more profitable than locking up violent felons. We’re awash in convicted sex offenders who are “safe” to have in our neighborhoods. We’re awash in violent illegal aliens. But by gosh we use precious and limited jail space for drunks and junkies.


43 posted on 11/26/2015 1:46:45 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Look closely at any evil and most times you'll find the unmistakable handprint of caesar.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

And that needs to change. Any ideas as how that can come about?


44 posted on 11/26/2015 1:49:49 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Look closely at any evil and most times you'll find the unmistakable handprint of caesar.)
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To: Ditter

Thank you for that. I like good news.


45 posted on 11/26/2015 1:55:03 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Look closely at any evil and most times you'll find the unmistakable handprint of caesar.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

As always when there is a question of the interaction of God and a large group of people, the change has to be allowed within the heart of the people.

In a few decades of bible studies I have seen some patterns in how this happens. On earth it looks like down, up, down, up, down, up etc. Evangelism breaks out and is accepted. Blessings follow. Eventually a new generation, if not the directly blessed generation itself, will assume they deserve all this good stuff rather than it having been gifted by God to an undeserving humanity, they congratulate themselves for it, and down things go again.

I wouldn’t rule out being near the end of a down and ready for another up at this point. All concerned people could certainly do worse than to pray to the Lord and invite it. However when invited, it helps if they are beginning to make room in their hearts for it too. Jesus will help in the clean up job, but you have to be willing to ask Him in when He shows up with the offer.


46 posted on 11/26/2015 1:59:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Funny thing, God has a way of mirroring our attitudes towards others, even the bad sinners, towards us. We might not sin that bad... yet. But that is one movement of the grace of God away. We should be ready to declare, along with the patriot who just got a parking ticket, that it’s absolutely fair even though we had no idea we would slip that bad when it happened.


47 posted on 11/26/2015 2:01:16 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Thanks. I hadn’t expected a religious explanation, but welcome it.

On thst note, I’m going back to family and spend some time reading the Torah. God Bless.


48 posted on 11/26/2015 2:04:00 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Look closely at any evil and most times you'll find the unmistakable handprint of caesar.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

The Law (Noahide or Mosaic) never could or did stand alone to benefit a sinful people. It can only result in a downward spiral of failures and a damnation end without the presence of a merciful Christ, the divine sin bearer.

This is why Christianity was such an “AHA!” moment for the world. It revealed what thinking people always knew made sense, but could never see. Jesus is “implementation details” — as it turns out, mightily important in the story, but if one never acknowledges the need for the Christ, then the New Testament role for Jesus can’t make sense to one either.


49 posted on 11/26/2015 2:09:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Substance abuse is not the equivalent of political or religious liberty.


50 posted on 11/26/2015 6:13:08 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: GenXteacher

The absence of nanny government is an important element in fomenting religious and political liberty.


51 posted on 11/26/2015 11:04:32 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The absence of law and order and the proliferation of stoners creates a society unfit for decent people to live in.


52 posted on 11/27/2015 6:09:33 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
There is a hard core of addicts who will not get help, who will never shake the monkey on their back. The less we spend on them, the better. Jails are very expensive places

Amen! The less we spend on ANY drug users, addicted or not, the better.

53 posted on 11/27/2015 7:30:10 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: GenXteacher
the proliferation of stoners creates a society unfit for decent people to live in.

There is no reason to expect a "proliferation of stoners" - the end of Prohibition didn't result in a proliferation of drunks.

54 posted on 11/27/2015 7:38:03 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Only because it coincided with the Depression- no money to buy alcohol.


55 posted on 11/27/2015 12:27:20 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: GenXteacher

Alcohol is very cheap...if you know how to make it. It’s the taxes and marketing that jack up the price.


56 posted on 11/27/2015 12:46:19 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Look closely at any evil and most times you'll find the unmistakable handprint of caesar.)
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To: GenXteacher
There is no reason to expect a "proliferation of stoners" - the end of Prohibition didn't result in a proliferation of drunks.

Only because it coincided with the Depression- no money to buy alcohol.

I know of no evidence for a proliferation of drunks at the end of the Depression, either.

57 posted on 11/27/2015 1:37:27 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

World War II... And it is not until afterward that alcohol use returned to its pre-Prohibition level.


58 posted on 11/27/2015 1:59:43 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Cheap doesn’t make something right.


59 posted on 11/27/2015 2:10:50 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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World War II... And it is not until afterward that alcohol use returned to its pre-Prohibition level.

And even then (or now), did it constitute a proliferation of drunks?

60 posted on 11/27/2015 2:14:32 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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