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Witness accounts conflict with 'Planned Parenthood shooting' narrative
Examiner ^ | November 29, 2015 | unknown

Posted on 11/29/2015 3:06:05 PM PST by DJ MacWoW

A horrific shooting on Friday may not have originated at a Planned Parenthood abortion facility in Colorado Springs as widely reported if witness accounts are to be considered

On Black Friday, Several people were injured and University of Colorado police officer Garrett Swasey, 44, along with two unnamed civilians were killed by a man identified as Robert Lewis Dear, 57, in Colorado Springs, Colorado

While it was reported that the Public Information Officer for the Colorado Springs Police Department "told reporters that the entire incident started with shooting at the Planned Parenthood facility;" multiple reports conflict with this narrative, including accounts from eye witnesses.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: colorado; plannedparenthood; robertdear; robertlewisdear
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To: dsc

You’re welcome. :-)


61 posted on 11/29/2015 5:06:27 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
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62 posted on 11/29/2015 5:11:37 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: DJ MacWoW

wow! thx for the update


63 posted on 11/29/2015 5:20:57 PM PST by takenoprisoner (Save America from the horror of muslim "refugees")
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To: takenoprisoner

You’re welcome.


64 posted on 11/29/2015 5:33:42 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thank you for the update. You get this week’s Trooper for Truth Award :)


65 posted on 11/29/2015 5:37:47 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: SisterK

Golly! Thanks. :-)


66 posted on 11/29/2015 5:39:18 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I read that A man was shot, and he ran into PP, yelling for someone to call 911. Apparently, Dear ran in after him. Reading the bits and pieces it would appear that he wasn’t “targeting” PP, but just ran in there after someone.

I need to go back and find the different witnesses and put the two accounts together. Perhaps the man who ran into PP was that Iraq war vet running in to warn them to stay inside and call for help- especially trying to protect his GF.


67 posted on 11/29/2015 6:53:54 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: Shelayne

Dear was outside for 30 minutes before running in PP. It’s in the police audio in Post 1.


68 posted on 11/29/2015 6:56:57 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Mariner

First time I fired a 12 Gauge with slugs I thought my shoulder would fall off

However when deer hunting I never even felt the recoil


69 posted on 11/29/2015 7:01:15 PM PST by uncbob
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To: DJ MacWoW

I know. I was challenging the narrative that he was targeting PP, because he may have only ended up inside there because he ran after the Iraq vet he shot.

I was just trying to piece that part together. I was on the live thread, reading the chatter as FRepers reported it. I remember reports that the first person shot was by the eye clinic, which is about a quarter mile from PP, according to the info I have read. The media knows this and is desperately trying to tie this to pro lifers, no matter the actual facts.


70 posted on 11/29/2015 7:07:50 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: combat_boots

Townhall got the info too somehow:

http://townhall.com/news/politics-elections/2015/11/29/the-latest-colorado-governor-man-woman-killed-in-shooting-n2086364


71 posted on 11/29/2015 7:11:05 PM PST by BeadCounter (,)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Dear was outside for at least 30 minutes....one of these days I’ll buy Broadcastify-premium...they have the whole thing on their site recorded for premium members.

This is getting out of hand, wish they’d just throw the whole police scanner audio up there so we all know, without the liberal media narrative.


72 posted on 11/29/2015 7:11:07 PM PST by libertarian27 (FR Cookbooks - On Profile Page)
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To: Shelayne

Then it wasn’t out to rob a bank ?


73 posted on 11/29/2015 7:11:12 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Shelayne
What will be crucial is who shot whom. How many of the victims were shot by police? I hope that they're honest.

I read somewhere that Dear only fired OUT of PP and not IN.

74 posted on 11/29/2015 7:12:06 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: libertarian27

I’ve been using your link. Bless you for posting it! It’s now on FB too.


75 posted on 11/29/2015 7:13:30 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I bumped into that youtube link this afternoon - it’s been up since the 27th - I’m amazed that only 8,000+ have listened to it....That’s news - Unedited.


76 posted on 11/29/2015 7:16:27 PM PST by libertarian27 (FR Cookbooks - On Profile Page)
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To: libertarian27

Yes it is news but too many don’t care. They don’t trust the MSM but they won’t shout them down either.


77 posted on 11/29/2015 7:19:44 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Scrambler Bob

This is an AK-47. It’s the weapon of your enemy. It makes a distinctive sound when fired.


78 posted on 11/29/2015 7:25:40 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Anecdotally, I’ve noticed that the Proggies on my FB friends list have been conspicuously and strangely quiet about this.

I chalked it up to them being just smart enough to realize that after a couple weeks of touting the “don’t judge many by the actions of an extremist few” following Paris, they’d have those words thrown back in their faces if they started in on Christians and gun owners here.


79 posted on 11/29/2015 7:32:46 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: uncbob

The witness (in the business next door to the bank) recalled the police “fly into our parking lot with lights flashing and everything” and then to the back of Chase bank. She and her co-workers then saw police surrounding the bank and heard shots being fired. She said she saw the first officer down, and stated the shots appeared to have come from behind the bank’s drive thru. This took place about a quarter mile from PP.

I don’t know if he was planning to rob the bank, but witnesses say he was shooting at police, who came “flying” with lights flashing to Chase bank well before he ended up at PP. I am just putting 1 + 1 together.


80 posted on 11/29/2015 7:59:08 PM PST by Shelayne
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