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Reporter asks Ted Cruz four times: “How do you define amnesty?”
Hot Air ^ | 12/01/2015

Posted on 12/01/2015 10:41:52 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

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To: jpsb

Thank you.


341 posted on 12/02/2015 6:12:31 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: humblegunner

John 8:44

“You belong to your father, the devil…”


342 posted on 12/02/2015 6:13:27 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: FreeReign

Trump immigration “plan” is enforce the law, secure the borders, period, end of plan.


343 posted on 12/02/2015 6:16:32 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: brothers4thID

He cheer leaded the fight for TPA which enabled TPP.


344 posted on 12/02/2015 6:18:04 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: HarleyLady27

Bump! Go Trump!


345 posted on 12/02/2015 6:48:27 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: onyx
"Immigration/amnesty is Election 2016’s critical issue."

Illegal immigration has been my number one issue since 1990, when H.W. refused to enforce the 1986 law. Quite a few of us saw this coming a long time ago. Pat B being the most prominent of us.

346 posted on 12/02/2015 7:03:43 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

When I was a boy I could get a job mowing lawns or working in a garden store, garbage truck, etc. Now all those jobs teenagers used to do have gone to illegals. Just about all construction jobs here in Texas have gone to illegals too. Used to be blacks did all of the concrete work here. Now it’s all illegals. Illegals are killing minority communities and poor white communities too.


347 posted on 12/02/2015 7:10:02 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"No, Cruz voted against TPA.

No when it mattered. Cruz was the biggest cheer leader for TPA in the Senate when it counted and voted for TPA when it counted. He even wrote an op-ed for the WSJ urging passage of TPA. When after getting absolutely hammered on social media he flip flopped, which he does a lot. His many flip flops tell me you can not believe what he says.

348 posted on 12/02/2015 7:22:55 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: jpsb

Truth!


349 posted on 12/02/2015 8:19:47 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: jpsb

1. Ted Cruz is a Reagan Republican: he believes in free trade as a powerful weapon to spread democracy and increase American influence— but he wants Congress to have a role in trade agreements. TPA has been used by every President for the past 50 years to expedite the negotiation of trade deals. Our allies, and enemies, know that the US Congress is a fickle beast that just loves to tack on poison pill amendments in order to kill a bill/treaty. TPA sets a time period and the mandate of an up or down vote— no amendments, no denial of cloture, no foot dragging. If Congress members do not like the details of the bill, they have to vote no and send it back to the drawing board. Furthermore, unlike the Constitutionally mandated treaty process, TPA allows for the House of Representatives to get a vote on a trade bill. (The Constitution says that the Senate must ratify a treaty— the House gets no vote.) Now I think we would all agree that Congressmen who have to be re-elected every 2 years are far less likely to sign onto a damaging treaty than Senators, who are only elected every 6 years— so letting the House have a vote is a good idea.

2. The TPA bill that originally hit the Senate floor was all but identical to the TPA used by the aforementioned Presidents of the past half-century. Senator Sessions was (rightly) concerned that immigration language would be added to the bill in the House, but no such language existed in the first Senate version. Conservatives were further worried that TPA would be used to re-authorize the Export-Import bank. McConnell gave assurances that the Export Import bank not only would not be added to the TPA, but that it was dead for the rest of the legislative year.

3. To end debate on any bill, that does not fall under specific budget rules, in the Senate you need unanimous consent OR 60 yes votes during what is called a cloture vote. When the cloture vote for TPA—the Senate version— was held there were 62 yes votes. Cruz did not cast the 60th, 61st, or 62nd vote. In fact, he had already voted yes to end the debate because he had been assured by House and Senate leaders that immigration codicils would not be added and that Ex/Im was dead. Then McConnell, realizing he would not get cloture (he only had 54 votes) made a deal with 8 Senators to put Ex/Im on another bill. You can read about those shenanigans here: http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/trade-promotion-authority-senate-roll-call-vote/

4. After cloture was obtained the deal McConnell made became public and Cruz was pissed as hell. To make matters worse, the House TPA bill included the very immigration language Sessions warned about. So, both Boehner and McConnell lied to conservatives (not just Cruz) in order to garner support. Because the House and Senate bills were different, they had to be combined in what is called a “Conference Committee”. That bill then had to be passed by both the House and Senate.

5. It was during the vote for cloture on the newly edited joint bill, (TPA-2 if you will) that Cruz and several others rebelled and voted no. Cruz has explained that the version of TPA that was passed was not the version supported by Reagan conservatives and he could not, in good conscience, vote for it.

6. The Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) deal has been sent to Congress to vote on under the rules outlined in TPA. This means that TPP cannot be amended or filibustered. All members of Congress will have a chance to vote and must either vote yes or no.


350 posted on 12/02/2015 8:49:28 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: brothers4thID
Ted Cruz is a Reagan Republican: he believes in free trade as a powerful weapon to spread democracy

Bull sh*t.

It's done nothing but put America on the road to decline while lining the pockets of a few well connected insiders. Those insiders have become wealthy beyond imagination while leaving middle America nearly dead on the floor.

351 posted on 12/02/2015 9:17:58 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

One of the greatest contributions the US can make to the world is to promote freedom as the key to economic growth. A creative, competitive America is the answer to a changing world, not trade wars that would close doors, create greater barriers, and destroy millions of jobs. We should always remember: Protectionism is destructionism. America’s jobs, America’s growth, America’s future depend on trade—trade that is free, open, and fair.
This year, we have it within our power to take a major step toward a growing global economy and an expanding cycle of prosperity: the historic free trade agreement negotiated between our country and Canada. And I can also tell you that we’re determined to expand this concept, south as well as north. Our goal must be a day when the free flow of trade, from the tip of Tierra del Fuego to the Arctic Circle, unites the people of the Western Hemisphere in a bond of mutually beneficial exchange.
Source: Pres. Reagan’s 1988 State of the Union message to Congress , Jan 25, 1988


352 posted on 12/02/2015 9:41:48 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I tried apologizing.

If your heart is too heard to accept it, that’s your choice.


353 posted on 12/02/2015 9:48:27 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: brothers4thID

No sale on your pro-free trade.

It’s economically gang banged middle America. This is no secret.


354 posted on 12/02/2015 9:58:29 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Jim Robinson; MinuteGal
***Enforce the law, build the wall, secure the borders...***

MINE THE BORDER! ...cheap, and effective!

355 posted on 12/02/2015 10:10:30 AM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Theo

Hi, I can read. And sorry to say I did not see and answer in Cruz’s plan concerning the Illegals who are ALREADY here. I certainly agree with his plan which talks about enforcement of the laws that are already on the books. Trump does too. My concern was I had not heard Cruz say, UNTIL TODAY, that he would deport those already here. He did so today on a radio show.

BTW, I have not said I would not vote for Cruz. I will be voting for whomever the Republican Nominee happens to be. But I will say, right now I would be totally delighted with a Trump/Cruz ticket.

Please remember that I can read. I taught children how to do it too! :)


356 posted on 12/02/2015 4:00:09 PM PST by seekthetruth (Still praying for a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: seekthetruth

Cruz wants illegals to leave. Through a variety of means of deportation. You understand that, right?

See, for example, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3367371/posts


357 posted on 12/02/2015 4:45:46 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

bkmk


358 posted on 12/02/2015 6:37:25 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: jpsb

It’s amazing to me the things that people consider flip-flops. Romney was a flip-flopper. Cruz is one of the most consistently conservative politicians in decades.

I consider it an admirable quality when a conservative politician can be reasoned with by his conservative constituents to change his position on an issue to a more conservative stance. I do not consider that flip-flopping or being untrustworthy.

We need consistently conservative leaders with whom we can reason when they are wrong. It is illogical to expect any conservative politician to be right 100% of the time. Reagan was not right 100% of the time. Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, et al. are not right 100% of the time. The important thing is that they are consistently conservative and can be reasoned with.

We’ve beaten our heads against the wall with leaders like Boehner and McConnell because they were never going to bend to more conservative positions. Cruz did. And you fault him for that?


359 posted on 12/03/2015 9:14:05 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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