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My Life Under The Affordable Care Act or My OBAMACARE DISASTER [Vanity]
The Democrats | 02-24-2016 | Red Badger

Posted on 02/24/2016 12:38:16 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: ltc8k6

Nowhere that I know of is there any instruction to notify the HC MP of an changes, but for marriage, death or divorce...........


21 posted on 02/24/2016 1:00:51 PM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Red Badger

Obama Care only works for those who don't work.


22 posted on 02/24/2016 1:02:43 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Lions Gate
There won't be much history left after Obama gets done.....


23 posted on 02/24/2016 1:05:50 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Red Badger

It effectively negates all the overtime and bonus for the year, so you might as well say that on those weekend days and nights I was working for the government..................

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From the viewpoint of Big Government, Obamacare is working as intended. A big success for them!


24 posted on 02/24/2016 1:06:24 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

correct - only fools supported it


25 posted on 02/24/2016 1:06:38 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Red Badger

How much above the line did you find yourself? Obamacare subsidies are tied to AGI so you may be able to throw enough money in a 401K or some other pre-tax investment to drop back below the subsidy line.


26 posted on 02/24/2016 1:07:18 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Red Badger

And yet the gov remains puzzled as to why consumers are not spending.


27 posted on 02/24/2016 1:07:32 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Red Badger

I understand your pain.

I’ve posted this before, but I think it bears repeating.

What is called “insurance” in the US these days has FOUR components:

1) Prepayment for routine medical care, like checkups and physicals, which of course rises in cost with age.

2) Some real, above the deductible, catastrophic coverage for unlikely but devastating illness—which is the only component that is really insurance

3) A transfer payment scheme for those who can’t afford 1) and 2),

and 4) A Pricing Club mechanism. That’s why if you go get tests or procedures without insurance, the list price is 4 to 10 times what the insurance companies actually pay. Of course, that means that if you have any assets, you get looted, which is what government is supposed to prevent, but instead encourages.

By going commando, you forego the costs of 1) and 3), and hope you don’t need 2) subject to 4).

That is, if you get really sick, you have to hope that the premiums you’ve saved are enough to get you through it at either inflated list prices, or at the prices you’ll negotiate afterwards when you’re not at your best.

What O-care did was shift some of the costs previously paid by taxpayers as a whole to the (incidentally largely white) middle class, and add multiple layers of bureaucracy, unpredictability, and inefficiency in the bargain.


28 posted on 02/24/2016 1:07:59 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: wbill
I'd find a good tax attorney. Not the local H&R Block popup office. Would be worth a couple of hundred bucks for a consultation.

I am taking some offense from your put-down. I and many HRB employees have many years of experience and training. I am an Enrolled Agent as are many others at HRB. As in EVERY enterprise you can find competent and incompetent workers. At HRB, you can sit for a full run of tax situation and a bottom line with costs and then say "No thank you" and leave.

I do agree that he needs outside help. If he wants to spend a little time, call a HRB Office and ask for an appointment with an EA or Master Tax Advisor. It only costs a commitment of time. Try a tax attorney and you are committed to a likely minimum bill of that couple of hundred bucks just for the meeting.

29 posted on 02/24/2016 1:12:54 PM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Too late for that. Any money that would have affected the AGI would have to have been deposited by December 31st 2015.

And the ‘eligibility’ requirement for payback of ‘excess APTC’ is a progressive scale, so that if I had stayed ‘just under’ the 4X poverty level limit, I would still have to pay back 90-95% of it. As your income rises, the more yo have to pay back. To pay back ‘$0’ I would have to be ‘in poverty’.........................


30 posted on 02/24/2016 1:13:30 PM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Red Badger

WOW! Health insurance is socialism to begin with. Hillarycare/Romneycare/Obamacare/TOTALITARIANCARE is socialism injected with steroids.

Legal Plunder - Bastiat

A YUUUUGE thanks for your post/first-hand experience.


31 posted on 02/24/2016 1:17:09 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Red Badger

Oh yeah, if your income goes up, your subsidy would obviously go down, and vice versa. You are supposed to make adjustments as they happen.

For example, if you applied for insurance with a $30K a year income, and 4 months into the year you got promoted to a $35K a year position, you are supposed to go to your account and update your income level.

You might also get demoted and need to adjust your income for a bigger subsidy.

If your income goes down, you would get money back.

This explains the APTC and income changes and taxes pretty well.

http://www.bcbsm.com/index/health-insurance-help/faqs/topics/buying-insurance/advanced-premium-tax-credit.html

However, It would still really all end up basically the same, I think.

You would either have paid the extra money at the end of the year, or paid the extra money monthly as a higher premium.


32 posted on 02/24/2016 1:19:40 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

Either way, you pay. They get you coming and going.................


33 posted on 02/24/2016 1:24:05 PM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: SES1066
I was drawing on my own experience.... Consulted *once* with HRB on taxes (one of those popup offices that show between Feb and April), and received no help beyond what was available from their software. The person I spoke to was a temporary hire, I assume to deal with the tax-time crunch, and not particularly good at, or interested in, their job. She would have been fine had I wanted to file a 1040EZ, but not to answer specific questions about deductions.

Calling an HRB office and asking to speak with a Master Tax Advisor is excellent advice.

Walking into a temporary mall kiosk and taking what's immediately available on premise? I'd be dubious, and won't do that again.

34 posted on 02/24/2016 1:26:22 PM PST by wbill
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To: Red Badger

“Changes to report
.Changes to income
.Changes in health coverage:
.Someone in your household getting an offer of job-based coverage, even if they don’t enroll in it
.Someone in your household getting coverage from a public program like Medicaid, CHIP, or Medicare

.Someone in your household losing coverage, like job-based coverage or Medicaid
.Changes to your household or individual members:
.Birth or adoption
.Placing a child for adoption or foster care
.Becoming pregnant
.Marriage or divorce
.A child on your plan turning 26
.Death
.Gaining or losing a dependent some other way
.Moving to a permanent address in your state
Note: Don’t update your application if you move out of state. See what to do when you move out of state.

.Correction to name, date of birth, or Social Security number
.Changes in status:
.Change in disability status
.Change of tax filing status
.Change of citizenship or immigration status
.Change in status as an American Indian/Alaska Native or tribal member
.Incarceration or release from incarceration”

https://www.healthcare.gov/reporting-changes/which-changes-to-report/

“You can report changes to the Health Insurance Marketplace 3 ways: Online, by phone, or in-person - not by mail.

Report changes online

Log in to your Marketplace account and follow these easy steps:
1.Select the green “Start a new application or update an existing one” button.
2.Choose your current application for 2016 under “Your existing applications.”
3.Click the “Report a life change” button from the left-hand menu.
4.Navigate through your application, and report any changes to your income, household members, new health coverage offers, and other information.
5.After you report income or household changes to the Marketplace, you’ll get new eligibility results that explain if you qualify for a Special Enrollment Period that allows you to change plans, or for changes in savings and coverage options.
.Learn more about Special Enrollment Periods.
.Learn more about changes in savings.

6.Important: Complete all required steps on your To-Do list. Depending on your eligibility, you may have options to enter your tax credit amount or answer questions about enrollment preferences. Finish the “Final review” task to complete your update or a new enrollment.

Report changes by phone

Contact the Marketplace Call Center and a representative can help you.

With in-person help

Find someone in your community who can meet with you to help make changes to your application.

What to do if you move

If you moved within the same state, you can report the change by following the instructions above.

But if you moved to a different state, you’ll need to start a new application for your new state. Moving to a new state will qualify you for a Special Enrollment Period, so you can enroll in a plan in your new area.

No matter where you move, you should also update your HealthCare.gov profile.

Steps to start a new application in a new state
.Log in to your Marketplace account.
.Select the green “Start a new application or update an existing one” button.
.Select the year and your new state from the drop-down list.
.Note: If the state you’re moving to runs its own Marketplace, you’ll use your new state’s website to apply. Otherwise you’ll apply and enroll on HealthCare.gov.

Steps to update your profile
.Log in to your Marketplace account and update the information on your Marketplace profile page. Note: Sometimes a more detailed address (like with your full ZIP code) may pop up. Select it so we’ll have your most accurate address.
.Be sure to also report address, email, and phone changes on your HealthCare.gov profile.”

https://www.healthcare.gov/reporting-changes/how-to-report-changes/

The biggest problem is ~$1,500/month premiums.

That’s over $18,000/year - far more than an operation and a week hospital stay costs in Western Europe.

I think you can deduct what you pay back pretty much. You might be only $8,000/year worse off for Obamacare.

Also see if adding to an IRA helps as another poster suggested.


35 posted on 02/24/2016 1:27:37 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Red Badger
Horrendous but completely expected.

Yours is the kind of story that should be receiving media focus from the previously so-called "investigative" news magazine shows like 60 Minutes, 20/20, Nightline, etc.

As we know the dino-MSM are all now simply propaganda machines for this regime and the mendacities that have been spewn out, like ObamaCare.

36 posted on 02/24/2016 1:30:33 PM PST by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: Red Badger

“if the household income for the tax year remains below 400% of the federal poverty level then the liability for excess premium payments will be limited.”

Read more at http://insuremekevin.com/irs-limits-aca-advance-premium-tax-credit-repayment/#v02huO1DQYIaue5r.99

Obama knows how to shield his base.


37 posted on 02/24/2016 1:30:58 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Red Badger

Wow, thanks for sharing that nightmare. I have no ideas to help (other than what another suggested perhaps you could put money into 401k?) but if it helps any (I imagine it won’t) at least some of us have learned something from you and know what to watch for.

Hopefully someone on here will have a great idea.


38 posted on 02/24/2016 1:33:20 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: Prov1322

I should email this story to the Trump Campaign?

Or Faux news?............


39 posted on 02/24/2016 1:34:03 PM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Red Badger

I don’t know the rules of obamacare but I do know you can contribute to retirement arrangements after the 1st and still have it lower last year’s AGI. It may well be worth a visit to a tax professional (a real one, not HR block). Either way I wish you well and will pray this situation is resolved without too much hardship.


40 posted on 02/24/2016 1:36:43 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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