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Canada Plans To Experiment With Giving People Unconditional Free Money
Tech Insider/BI ^ | Chris Weller

Posted on 03/05/2016 7:39:37 AM PST by blam

Chris Weller
March 5, 2016

Finland and The Netherlands have already shown their interest in giving people a regular monthly allowance regardless of working status, and now Ontario, Canada, is onboard.

Ontario's government announced in February that a pilot program will be coming to the Canadian province sometime later this year.

The premise: Send people monthly checks to cover living expenses such as food, transportation, clothing, and utilities — no questions asked.

It's a radical idea, and one that has been around since the 1960s. It's called "basic income." In the decades since it was first proposed, various researchers and government officials have given basic income experiments a try, with mixed results.

Folks at the Basic Income Canada Network, the national organization promoting basic income, have high hopes.

"We need it rolled out across Canada, and Quebec, too, is in the game," said chair of BICN, Sheila Regehr, in a statement. "So there's no reason why people and governments in other parts of this country need sit on the sidelines – it's time for us all to get to work."

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(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


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KEYWORDS: freemoney; government; greatsociety; welfare
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To: blam

Well known social scientist and author Charles Murray argues for a stipend IN PLACE of all other welfare, social programs, at a level that meets basic subsistence living and eating.

He was co-author of “The Bell Curve,” among other well known works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Murray_(political_scientist)


41 posted on 03/05/2016 8:10:09 AM PST by truth_seeker (e been labeled "Canadian" in those days.)
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To: lowbridge

Lol. If the birth nation of Ted throws in free weed it would solve our welfare state problems within a year.


42 posted on 03/05/2016 8:10:23 AM PST by Kudsman (Restore the Republic. Repeal the 17th.)
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To: blam

My idea: negative interest rates for loans.
That’s ‘free money’ for investing and building things instead of for buying booze and drugs.

Of course banks and people prefer the latter.


43 posted on 03/05/2016 8:10:42 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: blam
An electorate that would accept this has no pride, mark of a dead country, and they will get the oppression they deserve. The have also ceased to be an 'electorate'.

As Mitt pointed out, they already don't care about our votes in the US, but at least there remains an opposition here.

44 posted on 03/05/2016 8:16:04 AM PST by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: blam

Tell the Mexicans. Put up signs on the border of the US/Mexico pointing the way to Canada.


45 posted on 03/05/2016 8:16:56 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: rockrr

““We work - so they don’t have to””

I’m thinking I like this idea. Now, what we (U.S.) should do is take a lesson from Mexico and open the gates allowing open borders crossing into Canada - one way of course. Meaning anyone that wants to can cross into Canada but if wanting to return then limit only U.S. citizens back in. In fact, in order to facilitate this, there should be freedom bus rides offered to any wanting to take advantage of Canada’s generousity. Yeaaa Canada!


46 posted on 03/05/2016 8:18:29 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: blam

A current example of the outcome of this sort of thing are indian reservations that have casinos on them, where people living on the reservation get a portion of that gaming income. From what I see when I drive through those places, it appears that there’s even less incentive for the recipients of those funds to work or better their lives, but instead, more time to feed addictions, and more discarded appliances and dead vehicles in their yards.


47 posted on 03/05/2016 8:19:28 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: blam

I wonder what the differences are between basic income and slavery. One obvious difference is that slaves were required to work and those receiving basic income can work or not, as they wish. That ought to be pretty good, right? I believe that those getting basic income checks who are not self motivated to have a purpose in life will end up much worse than any other human situation, including slavery.

They will essentially be the slaves of the state and will live their lives in a perpetual state of spoiled children free to do whatever they want without any responsibility for themselves or for anyone. We might as well put up a big fence around them, invite working people to come and watch them at feeding time, train some to do little tricks, and let children pet them. It will be a hell on earth.


48 posted on 03/05/2016 8:22:08 AM PST by centurion316
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To: Right Brother

It comes from these. There are groves of these in socialist la-la land:


That’s how Bernie’s voters see him.

Don’t laugh at this idea, though. I can see our own fearless leaders thinking this is a great idea


49 posted on 03/05/2016 8:24:04 AM PST by LMAO (I know Hillary and I think she'd make a great president or Vice President. Don Trump 2008)
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To: blam
Guys. Guys! I know you're enjoying your freakout, but we're already doing this in Alaska. It's called the Alaska Permanent Fund. Look it up.
50 posted on 03/05/2016 8:24:23 AM PST by Fredpooll
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To: blam

Upside: mass migration of undesirables north. Downside: we gotta build another wall when they are desperate to leave.


51 posted on 03/05/2016 8:25:04 AM PST by dasboot
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To: Fredpooll

That’s relatively small numbers, isn’t it? (like 1 to 2 grand a year)

This sounds more like a minimum wage kind of amount.


52 posted on 03/05/2016 8:26:19 AM PST by nascarnation (RIP Scalia. Godspeed)
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To: Right Brother

In one of the “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” books, ... they decided to use leaves as currency, and started burning down forests to get inflation under control.


53 posted on 03/05/2016 8:27:16 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: blam
"We need it rolled out across Canada, and Quebec, too, is in the game," said chair of BICN, Sheila Regehr, in a statement. "So there's no reason why people and governments in other parts of this country need sit on the sidelines – it's time for us all to get to work."

Oh, the irony.

54 posted on 03/05/2016 8:29:05 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Hello blam!)
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To: centurion316

“We might as well put up a big fence around them, invite working people to come and watch them at feeding time, train some to do little tricks, and let children pet them.”

Why stop there? How about allowing drugs inside the fence too? Not ‘free’ drugs, but whatever kind of drug they want limited only by what their monthly check will buy them. Then for weekend viewing excitement, throw some guns over the fence and see what happens. Oh wait.... somebody else already thought of this, and set up such a place on the south side of Chicago.


55 posted on 03/05/2016 8:33:43 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: truth_seeker

I’ve seen some studies indicating that eliminating the ‘middle-man’, ALL(local, state, federal) welfare departments and programs, and just giving the funding directly to recipients could save significant amounts of money in the long run. Of course how it is spent by said recipients is another matter.......


56 posted on 03/05/2016 8:34:01 AM PST by yadent
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To: blam

Luckily Sheila has enough money to pay for this herself.


57 posted on 03/05/2016 8:35:30 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Right Brother

This had to emanate from a faculty lounge somewhere. Had to! Its too freekin’ stupid to have come from anywhere in civilized society.


58 posted on 03/05/2016 8:36:45 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: blam

Ripped from next year’s headlines: “Prices skyrocket unexpectedly; politicians rally to increase free money in reponse”


59 posted on 03/05/2016 8:39:56 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Politics: from the greek "poly" [many] and the english "ticks" [blood sucking parasites])
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To: nascarnation

it figures that the most indebted non-sovereign in the world would be doing this.

http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/with-twice-the-debt-of-california-ontario-is-now-the-worlds-most-indebted-sub-sovereign-borrower


60 posted on 03/05/2016 8:43:48 AM PST by Reverend Wright (Illegal immigrants: Arrest, Intern, Deport)
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