Posted on 03/16/2016 3:55:18 AM PDT by detective
Trump will make a deal with Cruz and they will go to convention united with the power to control.
All this contested convention speculation is overlooking the fact that Trump is the deal maker and will control the convention
There will likely be at least 200 or so uncommitted delegates, not including delegates who will have been released by candidates who have dropped out. Contrary to popular belief on FR, they will not all be RNC drones. If Trump really is very close, uncommitteds will put him over the top.
Ryan and the Establishment are just scamming foolish big donors.
If they pull this, they will reap the whirlwind.
Oh, and GTHPR!!!
“Trump will make a deal with Cruz and they will go to convention united with the power to control.”
that would be great if it happened.
I call click bait on this story.
Ryan isn’t going to be the nominee, and he doesn’t WANT to be the nominee.
-PJ
-— he doesn’t WANT to be the nominee-—
afterall, he is speaker. he can go home to Wisconsin and hunt deer.
he could not do that as president
I hope you are right.
Come convention time there will be delegates pledged to Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich and Carson. Deals will be cut to give either Trump or Cruz the nomination. Most likely it will be Trump but it could be Cruz if he does really well post-Rubio and is close to Trump in the delegate count. I don't expect that to happen so Trump is the likely nominee and may well win it outright.
There are no other possible outcomes.
Now this would be a legitimate reason to riot in Cleveland.
No thought hey Paul? You are correct, because you aren't being paid to think, just do as you are told and shut up, and we will tell you what to think at the World Forum on St. Simons Island, Georgia, on Sunday. I am sure you flew home with plenty of Apple, Google and Microsoft incentives along with a Tesla. I can't wait to see Cruz or Trump fire you!
Talk about a hopeless cause! Who's going to be his vice president? Mitch McConnell????
Even St. Jude's gonna throw up his hands at that idea!
Trump has definitely made his mark in political history books...which now is the Internet. Gope have been exposed to the masses that they hate their base.
Politics makes strange bedfellows and even though they seem to be at each other's throats today they'll find a way to bury the hatchet and unify. Ted has no future in the Senate after this race so the VP slot is perfect for him. There's no way Trump would settle for anything less than the top of the ticket and Ted has to know that he'd never win a floor fight on his own as the GOPe was always just using him to block Trump. Hence its unite or die.
Of course if Trump gets the delegate majority he needs then Ted's future is in serious doubt. Ironically we may well wind up with the ticket most here originally wanted to see last Summer before the acrimony started.
House Speaker Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) suggested Tuesday night that he could reach for the Republican presidential nomination during a contested convention in Cleveland.He'll be pulling back with just a bloody stump if he tries that ****. I mean that in the nicest possible way, of course.
That would be quite a trick...Ryan is the slated to be the chair of the Cleveland convention. Chairman of the convention nominated as the party’s candidate? Not since Dick Cheney vetted all of W’s potential vice presidential picks and then accepted the position himself...
Just saying, there’s a precedent in Republican cirlces.
The Republicans are, most of them in leadership, cowards and without principle. This plan would not just be election suicide but would be party suicide. Party suicide means every individual is committing partial career suicide - any who shows himself to support the overthrow of whomever the people chose will be hated by the people for all time ... end of career so long as elections are the means of choosing.
While it's true that the collectivism that the Republican party has embraced wins on a mob level, Self Interest is not a political philosophy.
It merely "Is.' That's part of what "A = A' means, or more properly, "A is A". A thing is what it is. Humans don't just have self-interest, they are self interest. They are also other things, but primarily they are self interest, even if they realize that their self interest is tied to group interest.
The reason free markets and freedom work best is not that they are 'a great idea or plan' ... it's because they reflect what already IS about humans. It can not be philosophized away, except for short periods and as a collective lie.
This won't happen because it can not happen, unless it were to be done militarily.
The power of the ideas in the Declaration of Independence do not lie in 'great philosphy' or 'composition of ideas'. The power lies in the IDENTIFICATION of WHAT ALREADY IS, before any human thought process can declare or create some other symbol or map of reality. (This is tied to why many religions proscribe infusing graven images with meaning.)
That is what SELF EVIDENT and BESTOWED BY CREATOR meant / mean.
It identified not only the birthright, but more accurately, identified the condition.
Human beings can not be deprived of their freedom, in fact. Human beings can not be collectivists except for short periods of time in extreme conditions, such as when great danger is recognized. They must either fear for their lives based on an external or internal threat, or belief in such a threat.
Unless that threat is generated in reality or in perception, the Republicans ... not as a party ... but individually, will not overcome the reality of their identities.
Thus, this will not happen because it can not, unless this threat materializes.
It won't, but they will create every possible media apparition to simulate the effect.
Certain evils are constant, but also so are certain truths.
There is not enough real conditional extremity extant in the US at the moment create the real or imagined danger that would lead individuals to make up the mob required for this to take place.
That is not to say it's not what they wish for or will even attempt to cause to be, but the energy won't build strongly enough. What is described is a coup in reverse. They wish for it, but the conditions aren't there.
So, all those forces are at work, but man is what he is, so it can't happen barring many other conditions the appearance (or conjuring) of which is possible but not plausible. Based on all that, I don't believe this is an outcome worth fearing. Rather, it will be amusing to watch efforts which, while they may seem mighty as efforts, will certainly be mighty in terms of dispicability and intention, have little power against the reality of 'what is.'
'God' is no different from 'What Is.' That's the fundamental meaning of 'self evident.' Freedom isn't really a right, it's a reality of which governments arrogantly claim to be the originator rather than the denier. Expressing that denial is like denying that the sky is. Takes extreme conditions to create such mass denial, especially amongst Republican ... not pols, but voters, who already innately perceive that more than democrats, and therefore would abandon those pols in a flash. Democrats would miss the trick, Republicans, conservative, real libertarians, wouldn't and won't without a gun in their face.
This would work with the democrat electorate, not us.
The main problem is the assumption is that the GOPe are “Republican”. I believe that the GOPe is no longer that. They are the junior part of the DC Uni-Party, content to hang on to their DC perks and cede control of the country to the leftists.
Agreed. I think A VP Cruz could help steel the spine of the Donald and help him to avoid his penchant for compromise and deal-making with the extremists. Cruz’s experience in DC could go a long way by revealing to the outsider Donald what the extremist left (and GOPe) is going to do next after they make a deal.
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