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Cruz Outmaneuvering Trump in Battle for Rubio Delegates
National Review ^ | 04/14/2016 | by BRENDAN BORDELON & ELIANA JOHNSON

Posted on 04/15/2016 7:07:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

At best Cruz (Mr Personality) will be the crushed loser to Hillary and he causes conservatism to become the victim as the GOP blames that for the next 40 years.
Needs to be burned to the ground.


41 posted on 04/15/2016 10:27:29 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Agnes Heep

“Only a scumbucket like Cruz would try to deprive Donald of those delegates.”

Because the sainted King Donald of Orange has a divine right to those delegates??


42 posted on 04/15/2016 10:31:19 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Orange is the new black.. apparently.)
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To: JEDI4S

Political logic: If Trump is over 1100 formal delegates when he gets to the convention, the others will go to him. Why? because Trump can get over with just unbound - so for political positioning the others know there is no return on investment politically to back-stab Trump at that point. They will kiss his ring.


43 posted on 04/15/2016 10:35:48 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: tirednvirginia

Whine! Whine! Whine! Trump squealing “unfair” after being outmaneuvered and tripping over his own intellectual shoelaces by rules promulgated and distributed to each campaign months ago!!


44 posted on 04/15/2016 10:38:50 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Orange is the new black.. apparently.)
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To: ScottinVA

Now the voters are finding out those rules. We are finding out that our votes are simply chess pieces in a game which only the establishment gets to play. You bet Im whining!


45 posted on 04/15/2016 10:44:34 AM PDT by tirednvirginia ( But help is on the way!)
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To: kiryandil

LMAO!!! Yet the National Enquirer, Gateway Pundit and Conservative Treehouse are legitimate publications, eh?


46 posted on 04/15/2016 10:44:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Orange is the new black.. apparently.)
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To: tirednvirginia

Why didn’t St. Donald make hay of this sooner?


47 posted on 04/15/2016 10:46:57 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Orange is the new black.. apparently.)
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To: ScottinVA

Until it happens voters cant see for themselves. Now we see.


48 posted on 04/15/2016 10:52:58 AM PDT by tirednvirginia ( But help is on the way!)
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To: Doctor DNA
What better words would describe the intent of the above statement?

That Cruz is a man who was prepared to "work" for the nomination....and knew the roadblocks the GOPe would try to throw in his way. As such, he studied how Obama took office and spent years building a similar ground game, planning strategies for several nomination scenes, studied the rules of each state....and focused on what he needed to do....and is carrying that strategy out.

What it does not mean is he's flying by the seat of his pants like Mr Trump, who seems to have gotten up one morning and decided to play at being a nominee. Trump didn't plan to work for it....evidenced by the fact that he didn't hire experienced campaign people, he never planned a ground game and he wasn't willing to "loan" much of his money to his campaign.

I can see how it's a blast for Trump to give big "party like" rallies, throw out hyperbole so the media pants to talk to him....but show up for the boring job of talking to delegates at State Conventions? Nah.....

His insincerity continues to be in evidence when he whines about not being "given" the nomination should he miss the 1237 nomination requirement, because he is "better" and "more popular" than everyone else.....so the Republicans should just forget about those "unfair" rules.

Have you ever wondered why his children didn't register so they could vote for their own dad? They knew he wasn't serious, and the fact that people have taken his publicity stunt as a true campaign has taken them all by surprise. Now they are scrambling to figure out what to do next.

49 posted on 04/15/2016 11:30:01 AM PDT by TXSearcher (The anti-RINO rebellion is being won by a NY RINO.......truth IS stranger than fiction.)
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To: A CA Guy

RE: At best Cruz (Mr Personality) will be the crushed loser to Hillary and he causes conservatism to become the victim as the GOP blames that for the next 40 years.

Needs to be burned to the ground.

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I don’t know where you’re getting that prediction from. But if the polls today are any indication ( and I hope they’re wrong ). Trump gets crushed by Hillary by MORE than Cruz would get crushed.


50 posted on 04/15/2016 11:50:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: ScottinVA

RE: Yet the National Enquirer, Gateway Pundit and Conservative Treehouse are legitimate publications, eh?

Speaking of the Enquirer, other than the two ladies they mentioned, who BOTH publicly denied their allegations, I’m still waiting for the names of the other three alleged Cruz mistresses.

Last time I asked for it ( which was over a month ago ), I was told that it’s coming....


51 posted on 04/15/2016 11:52:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: tirednvirginia

RE: Cheat! Cheat! Cheat! Voters being disenfranchised by rules designed and created by the establishment for the sole purpose of manipulating the votes.

Whine, whine, whine.

Trump conspicuously refrains from complaining about how though he has won just 37 percent of votes cast in Republican primaries and caucuses, those votes have given him 46 percent of the delegates.

That happened because of the rules. Trump has benefited from winner-take-all rules in states such as Florida and Arizona. He has benefited from split opposition: In only one state (Massachusetts) has he won more popular votes than the combined total for Cruz, Marco Rubio and John Kasich.

Anti-Trump candidates could have joined forces and encouraged tactical voting. When they didn’t (exception: Rubio advised his Ohio supporters to vote for Kasich, a favor not returned), Trump had no complaints.

But he did have complaints when Cruz operatives worked successfully to win technically uncommitted delegates in conventions, as they did in Louisiana and North Dakota. Trump’s response: “I don’t care about rules.”

It seems to run in the family. Trump’s son Eric and daughter Ivanka can’t vote for him in the New York primary because, as Trump explained, “They didn’t know the rules and they didn’t register (Republican) in time.” Even though the rules have been in force for years and are readily accessible online.

The Colorado rules Trump complains about were adopted last August and available online in September. If Trump’s team did not know about it it calls into questions the competence of the team he has assembled.

The Cruz campaign took note and started working to use them to maximum advantage. The Trump campaign didn’t. Whose fault is that?


52 posted on 04/15/2016 11:54:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Trump refused to pay for polls, embarrassed and endangered the livelihood of typical campaign workers not seen as being needed.

You have the pollsters, GOPe conspiring, his campaign opponents and Democrats along with PACs from both sides going full gun at Trump.

If Trump grabs the nomination he will have the GOPe forced to drop out.
Meanwhile you have Cruz who has see personality with no ability to pull those crowds and cross overs like Trump who only gets Fox claiming he wins, the rest has Cruz being destroyed.

Cruz is the professor talking zzzzzzzzz.
Trump causes the buzz. Has a big personality many are drawn to.

I hope Trump can win outright, I think there is a great chance Cruz gets stabbed in the back and does not get his contested convention result.

If they DID allow Ted to win it would be as the token loser and Bookmark this: the GOPe then over the next 30 years blames right leaning conservatism for losing, not Ted being a dead fish to the Public.

Granted Trump is a very right conservative leaning populist, but I think he is patriotic and would try and do what he is running on, I don't see him being afraid to do anything for this country.

Now though I know Cruz is one of those lawyers we don't like, I think he loves the country as well, but the man possesses none of the dynamic skills at this time to win or get much done.

The best thing would be if Ted joined Trump IMO and that he tried to advise Trump wisely and prepare for the future elections for himself the way Bush #1 was under Reagan and got the bump to go get elected next.

I am really not about the flaming here, but though Ted has the ground game lawyer inside thing down, at this time he has near ZERO Pied Piper attributes. He has no crowds with tens of thousands and you need to have that this election to get passed the taker vote.

IMO Ted and Trump need to consolidate or Hillary probably wins.

53 posted on 04/15/2016 12:08:53 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: traderrob6

Rubio has already endorsed Cruz Einstein.

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Funny, Rubio will definitely endorse Trump with what counts, his delegates, and why may you ask, politics is about winning, the winner by a long shot with voters and delegates is Trump. A non nuanced reality.


54 posted on 04/15/2016 12:27:42 PM PDT by QuigleyDU
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To: Agnes Heep

“Only a scumbucket like Cruz would try to deprive Donald of those delegates.”

Rubio got 17 delegate SPOTS at the upcoming convention. Those SPOTS are now open. The hundreds/thousands(?) of other delegates will be voting on who fills those spots. So the delegates elected from neighborhoods across the state will be voting on the delegates to send to the national convention.

So other than having a vote on who fills those 17 vacant spots, what would you propose?


55 posted on 04/15/2016 12:40:40 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: QuigleyDU

You’re dreaming.


56 posted on 04/15/2016 12:49:06 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: 21twelve; All

Look at my tagline and tell me if you think I’m a Trump supporter.


57 posted on 04/15/2016 12:50:08 PM PDT by Agnes Heep (Trump 2016: Statism that WORKS for US!!!)
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To: tirednvirginia
Ted Cruz will not have any respect if he wins this way.

So I assume you have no respect for Abe Lincoln? James Garfield? Benjamin Harrison? Teddy Roosevelt?

58 posted on 04/15/2016 12:50:14 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: dforest
He should doe the decent thing and get out.

So you are admitting Trump can't win unless the other candidates forfeit???

59 posted on 04/15/2016 12:52:57 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: SeekAndFind

Looks like Trump maybe have been outmaneuvered again.

Or as trumpers would put it... cheated out of delegates.


60 posted on 04/15/2016 12:56:35 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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