Posted on 04/15/2016 7:07:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Right. It’s the only decent thing to do.
Except ... right now Cruz has a clearer path to the nomination than Trump.
Trump wouldn’t even be in this if not for the early primaries where he won votes with 35% or so of the delegates.
How come trumpers never mention that when they are whining about Colorado. It was ‘not trump’ (everybody else) 60+ percent, trump 30% or a little more.
When the system works for you, it’s all good.
And so, I’m really sorry for you but Cruz is not done and he’s not leaving.
Trump needs to get to work.
His staff is in shambles with chaotic infighting and nobody watching the store.
What about Trump scooping up all those early delegates by gaming the system?
By the way, your list is stupid.
All the polls show Trump losing badly to Hillary and Cruz tied or winning.
So is there something we don’t know that you base this prediction on?
I know... it is so mean that Cruz went to Colorado and got all the votes while Trump was in bed in New York tweeting.
Oh crap! I took your comment as sarcasm at first. Then thought, well you never know. So I looked at your tagline and saw Trump2016 and stopped there! (What - you always read to the end of all articles and threads before you comment on them?)
Sorry about that. Although perhaps others may find my post educational.
With obama it became REALLY hard to determine which articles and comments were satire or sarcasm. This primary doesn’t make it any easier!
Where do you find these polls that you cite?
Must be in trumpville ... because the polls I see show an extremely rocky road for Trump to the nomination.
No one but the most delusional trumper could believe that he will get the votes he needs to avoid a contested convention.
And Cruz’s team is working hard to pick up the uncommitted delegates from other candidates.
There is no law that says Trump couldn’t do the same thing but he’s too lazy and uncoordinated and he never hires people smarter than himself, which leaves him with dumb people on his staff.
It use to be that candidates were chosen in state conventions. Now savvy voters dont want party bosses choosing their candidates especially when they go out and vote in a primary and find out it was all a sham. You have a losing argument and your candidates poll numbers reflect that. Keep arguing anyway but you wont get your candidate the presidency by saying stealing delegates is okay.
You’re dreaming.
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Winners win, losers side with Ted, you’ll see.
Trump had it ... mostly by benefiting from an overcrowded field ... but he had it.
And he lost it. He lost it by throwing hissy fits that turned voters off; by childish taunting of having a prettier wife; by making huge policy blunders and then walking them back.
If the primary season started today, Trump would not even be in the field.
Cleveland will not be a 3-ring circus. It will follow rules about a contested convention.
Many of the previous candidates who have dropped out have uncommitted delegates. Very few delegates are committed after the first round.
Maybe Trump will win in the second round. Probably not.
Cruz cannot win. Period.
“Outmaneuvering” ? Is this how you think the Republican base sees this?
They see this as total bull **** and Party Syndicalism.
No wonder Cruz is Cratering. Vote by vote. If the vote is not respected, you haven’t seen anything as to what is coming for the GOPe and Cruz will be held accountable for trying to hardwire this abomination and enabling the GOPe. You watch.
I did NOT include 1) any Colorado delegates, 2) Wyoming delegates and 3) Rubio delegates and Trump still gets to 1,237.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3418545/posts?page=35#35
GOPe Maneuvering
Cruz Maneuvering.
Trump winning votes.
Only if Trump gets 1237 delegates. Whether he will or not remains to be seen.
That's where you're dead wrong.
Ted Cruz is done, period. End of sentence.
There's no "only if" scenario where Ted Cruz gets the nomination, not even at a contested convention.
How naive Cruzbots are showing themselves to be! I guess when reality isn't palatable, whimsical fantasy is all that remains. How quaint.
Aside from being mathematically eliminated Tuesday night from any chance of a delegate majority, Ted Cruz has absolutely no chance of getting the GOP nomination without totally splintering the party and destroying voter enthusiasm. It's just not going to happen.
Even the GOPe isn't stupid enough to do that.
Once Ted Cruz is mathematically eliminated on Tuesday 4/19, the dynamic of the GOP race will turn against him even more strongly.
Although consistently annoying due to its irrationality, vehemence, and GOPe ass-kissing, the desperation of the Cruz campaign and Cruzbots is becoming more and more a source of amusement, as opposed to serious debate.
I think I'll be eating lots of popcorn over the next several days, especially on Tuesday night.
The Cruzbot flailing, wailing, and gnashing of teeth should be quite intense by that time.
2DV, other Cruz bundlers and their ilk can continue with their tireless, impotent spamming of FR, but it will not help their candidate win the GOP nomination. Eventually, their knee-jerk hatred will subside, and those who are serious about making America great again will support the GOP nominee, Donald Trump, against Hillary in November...
If you think conservative Republicans will be enthusiastic about Trump, you're living in a dream world. You would see volunteering for his campaign at record lows for a Republican candidate. The party as a whole will cheer wildly if Trump is defeated at the convention. Most of Trump's supporters are crossover Democrats who we don't want in our party anyway. They will only water down the platform into an anti-Christian, anti-freedom, pro-socialism message.
Cruz cannot be mathematically eliminated until June 7th. All of the unbound and Rubio/Kasich delegates are up for grabs on the first ballot. If they all go to Cruz, we will not know until June 7th if that is enough to put Cruz over 1237.
Florida, my home state, had a closed primary.
Donald Trump crushed both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio in that primary.
The same has been true for several other closed primary states.
Thus, your assertion is fallacious, ludicrous on its face, and amounts to aught but feeble propaganda.
There is no “stealing” taking place. The presidential preference vote means nothing after states become unbound on subsequent ballots. The votes for the delegates is what counts. Cruz is competing to get his delegates voted in and to persuade the delegates to support him once they are unbound. There is no other way to play the game. Those are the rules. I can guarantee you Trump will be trying to persuade the delegates eventually, but his mistake is he’s been lazy, cheap and inattentive and let Cruz start a lot earlier.
We can argue till kingdom come today on whether or not I am wrong or you are wrong and nothing will be resolved until the time comes.
You did say that Ted Cruz is mathematically eliminated on Tuesday 4/19, we shall see...
Let’s come back to this thread on April 20 and revisit your prediction.
RE: Not sure what you mean by the vote not being respected. Thus far, Trump has won 37% of the votes overall and he’s getting about 45% of the delegates. How is that not respecting the vote?
Trump got less than 50% of the votes in Florida but got 100% of the delegates ( it’s a winner take all state ).
In fact, the system is HELPING Trump.
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