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Inside A Secret Government Warehouse Prepped For Health Catastrophes
NPR ^ | June 27, 2016 | NELL GREENFIELDBOYCE

Posted on 06/27/2016 6:05:23 AM PDT by Drango

When Greg Burel tells people he's in charge of some secret government warehouses, he often gets asked if they're like the one at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, where the Ark of the Covenant gets packed away in a crate and hidden forever.

"Well, no, not really," says Burel, director of a program called the Strategic National Stockpile at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Thousands of lives might someday depend on this stockpile, which holds all kinds of medical supplies that the officials would need in the wake of a terrorist attack with a chemical, biological or nuclear weapon.

The location of these warehouses is secret. How many there are is secret. (Although a former government official recently said at a public meeting that there are six.) And exactly what's in them is secret.

"If everybody knows exactly what we have, then you know exactly what you can do to us that we can't fix," says Burel. "And we just don't want that to happen."

What he will reveal is how much the stockpile is worth: "We currently value the inventory at a little over $7 billion."

But some public health specialists worry about how all this would actually be deployed in an emergency.

"The warehouse is fine in terms of the management of stuff in there. What gets in the warehouse and where does it go after the warehouse, and how fast does it go to people, is where we have questions," says Dr. Irwin Redlener, director of the National Center for Disaster Preparedness at Columbia University.

I recently asked to go take a look at one of the warehouses, and was surprised when the answer was yes. I was told I was the first reporter ever to visit a stockpile storage site.

Bob Delaney moved a pallet of surgical masks in Utah in 2009. Like other states, Utah received supplies from the Strategic National Stockpile to prepare for a flu pandemic.

Since I had to sign a confidentiality agreement, I can't describe the outside. But the inside is huge.

"If you envision, say, a Super Walmart and stick two of those side by side and take out all the drop ceiling, that's about the same kind of space that we would occupy in one of these storage locations," Burel says.

A big American flag hangs from the ceiling, and shelves packed with stuff stand so tall that looking up makes me dizzy.

"We have the capability, if something bad happens, that we can intervene in a positive way, but then we don't ever want to have to do that. So it's kind of a strange place," says Burel. "But we would be foolish not to prepare for those events that we could predict might happen."

The Strategic National Stockpile got its start back in 1999, with a budget of about $50 million. Since then, even though the details aren't public, it's clear that it has amassed an incredible array of countermeasures against possible security threats.

The inventory includes millions of doses of vaccines against bioterrorism agents like smallpox, antivirals in case of a deadly flu pandemic, medicines used to treat radiation sickness and burns, chemical agent antidotes, wound care supplies, IV fluids and antibiotics.

I notice that one section of the warehouse is caged off and locked. Shirley Mabry, the logistics chief for the stockpile, says that's for medicines like painkillers that could be addictive, "so that there's no pilferage of those items."

As we walk, I hear a loud hum. It's a giant freezer packed with products that have to be kept cold.

Just outside it, there are rows upon rows of ventilators that could keep sick or injured people breathing. Mabry explains that they're kept in a constant state of readiness. "If you look down to the side you'll see there's electrical outlets so they can be charged once a month," she says. Not only that—the ventilators get sent out for yearly maintenance.

In fact, everything here has to be inventoried once a year, and expiration dates have to be checked. Just tending to this vast stash costs a bundle — the stockpile program's budget is more than half a billion dollars a year.

And figuring out what to buy and put in the stockpile is no easy task. The government first has to decide which threats are realistic and then decide what can be done to prepare. "That's where we have a huge, complex bureaucracy trying to sort through that," says Redlener.

The process goes by the clunky acronym PHEMCE and involves agencies from the Department of Defense to the Food and Drug Administration. They're looking to acquire or develop products that can meet the threats.

"A lot of under-the-hood, background work goes into identifying what the size, the scope, the special needs are, and what medical countermeasures exist or need to be made," says George Korch, senior adviser to the assistant secretary for preparedness and response at the Department of Health and Human Services. "That then drives the rest of the process for research, development, procurement, stockpiling, et cetera."

There is often debate, he says, but at the end of the day they have to reach a consensus and move forward.

"We could start stockpiling cobra antivenom if we really wanted to, but should we?" says Rocco Casagrande, who runs a consulting firm called Gryphon Scientific.

The government recently hired Gryphon to do an analysis of how well the stockpile was positioned to respond to a range of scenarios based on intelligence information. "The studies that were done before have all been one-off. They've all been looking at a single type of attack at a time, or a single type of weapon of mass destruction," says Casagrande. "They haven't looked across all threats to make decisions about whether you should buy A versus B."

The results can't be discussed publicly, says Casagrande, but "one thing we can say is that across the variety of threats that we examined, the Strategic National Stockpile has the adequate amount of materials in it and by and large the right type of thing."

The trouble is, increasingly the new medicines chosen for the stockpile have some real limitations.

"These are often very powerful, very exciting and useful new medicines, but they are also very expensive and they expire after a couple years," says Dr. Tara O'Toole, a former homeland security official who is now at In-Q-Tel, a nonprofit that helps bring technological innovation to the U. S. intelligence community.

O'Toole chairs a recently formed committee at the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine, which the government asked to study the stockpile program and offer advice. She says as the inventory of the stockpile goes up and up, the budget to maintain that inventory is staying flat.

"This is an unsustainable plan," she says. "And we don't think there's enough money to do what the stockpile says it must do, already."

That's because getting stuff out of the stockpile to the people who would need it is a major challenge. Imagine if there's a major anthrax attack, and there's just 48 hours to get prophylactic antibiotics to more than a million people.

"It is not going to be easy or simple to put medicines in the hand of everybody who wants it," says O'Toole.

Back at the warehouse, Mabry and Burel show me all the ways they're set up to expedite delivery. For example, one of the first things you see when you walk into the warehouse is rows of 130 shipping containers. "This is the 12-hour push package, approximately 50 tons of material," says Mabry.

This collection of stuff could help after a variety of disasters, and it's designed to be delivered to a city or town within hours. Mabry shows me how the outside of each container has a pouch. "That has the information that anyone would need if they were to receive this, so they could very easily identify what is in this," she explains.

The people who would receive this container — or anything else from the stockpile — are state and local public health workers. They're the ones who have to figure out how get pills into mouths and shots into arms.

But local public health officials have had budget cuts and are drastically underfunded, says Paul Petersen, director of emergency preparedness for Tennessee.

"Many jurisdictions across the U. S. have less staff and less resources available to them to surge up in large-scale events," says Petersen. "I mean, that's a risk."

While they do have plans for emergencies, and lists of volunteers, he says, "they're volunteers. And they're not guaranteed to show up in the time of need."

Over and over, I heard worries about this part of the stockpile system.

"We have drastically decreased the level of state public health resources in the last decade. We've lost 50,000 state and local health officials. That's a huge hit," says O'Toole, who wishes local officials would get more money for things like emergency drills. "The notion that this is all going to be top down, that the feds are in charge and the feds will deliver, is wrong."

She'd also like to see more interest from Congress in all of this — because it's a national security issue. "These will be do-or-die days for America, should they ever come upon us," O'Toole points out.

And having a stockpile in a warehouse will be just the beginning.


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhocdc; cdc; prepper; stockpile
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1 posted on 06/27/2016 6:05:23 AM PDT by Drango
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To: Drango

we’re already under attack from biological weapons. They go by the name of Juan


2 posted on 06/27/2016 6:08:18 AM PDT by ghosthost
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; Roos_Girl; TMSuchman; Kartographer

bump


3 posted on 06/27/2016 6:08:28 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

Secret. They keep using that word. I don’t think it means what they think it means.


4 posted on 06/27/2016 6:10:51 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (`)
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To: Drango

don’t think for a minute this is for the middle class masses... It will be used to ensure there remains a healthy supply of unwitting slaves, dependent on government.


5 posted on 06/27/2016 6:11:24 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Drango
there are rows upon rows of ventilators

Some say these will be the key item in a pandemic and be worth more than gold. Most preppers don't have ventilators in their emergency kit.

6 posted on 06/27/2016 6:12:08 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: ghosthost

The disease called islam, is also a replicating virus.


7 posted on 06/27/2016 6:15:23 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Drango
That picture was from the contractor's proposal to the government. I obtained a REAL photograph of the actual warehouse through my connections:


8 posted on 06/27/2016 6:17:16 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Drango

How about a fleet of drones for delivery?

“Honey, the drone is here with the medicine.”


9 posted on 06/27/2016 6:19:18 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (JFK Wanted To Send Man To Moon - Obama Wants To Send Man To Ladies Room)
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To: Drango
So it took how many paragraphs for NPR to get to the big beg?

"These are often very powerful, very exciting and useful new medicines, but they are also very expensive and they expire after a couple years," says Dr. Tara O'Toole, a former homeland security official who is now at In-Q-Tel, a nonprofit that helps bring technological innovation to the U. S. intelligence community.

O'Toole chairs a recently formed committee at the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine, which the government asked to study the stockpile program and offer advice.She says as the inventory of the stockpile goes up and up, the budget to maintain that inventory is staying flat.

"This is an unsustainable plan," she says. "And we don't think there's enough money to do what the stockpile says it must do, already."


10 posted on 06/27/2016 6:22:20 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (PS - Vote Trump. Vote Coal.)
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To: Revelation 911

It’s all about controlling people on a mass scale.

Nothing in these warehouses is meant for or destined for the regular man on the street. These supplies can and will be used as an inducement for desperate folks to enter the camps.


11 posted on 06/27/2016 6:23:14 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Drango

You can’t get what we need most to prepare for a catastrophe.
We are obligated to buy and store arms and ammunition (and/or components), ourselves.


12 posted on 06/27/2016 6:24:36 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Drango

PS:

Screw NPR. Taxpayer funded Marxism at its best


13 posted on 06/27/2016 6:26:16 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: T-Bone Texan

+1.


14 posted on 06/27/2016 6:27:26 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Drango; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Healthcare Warehouse


15 posted on 06/27/2016 6:48:16 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: Drango

“What gets in the warehouse and where does it go after the warehouse, and how fast does it go to people, is where we have questions,”

Like in Goodfellas, it comes in the front door, goes out the back door, and this continues until you bust the place out. Except here, the place never gets busted out. The taxpayers pay, and pay, and pay. So that image might actually be “7 billions dollars” worth.


16 posted on 06/27/2016 6:49:36 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Drango
To be distributed by FEMA?

LOL!

17 posted on 06/27/2016 6:51:26 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Drango
From a presentation I do on this type of topic:


18 posted on 06/27/2016 7:02:13 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Drango

It always comes down to logistics.

Amateurs study tactics.

Professionals study logistics.

L


19 posted on 06/27/2016 7:13:10 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: CodeToad

See post 19.

L


20 posted on 06/27/2016 7:14:13 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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