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1 posted on 12/05/2016 1:05:19 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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I guess the real question is why do low income drivers run so many red lights. I’ll conduct a study for $12,000,000.


32 posted on 12/05/2016 1:29:40 PM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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It's a Rat Town. The Mayors a big time Rat and she is another anti-whitey. When I drive through the center of city, I roll up my windows praying it will deflect any bullets.

It was a wonderful city once with the best schools and all the amenities you could possibly desire.

It's now a Dem rat hell hole.

33 posted on 12/05/2016 1:30:41 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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Makes sense. Low income are usually the lower IQ and the most stupid. They are bound to do stupid tings.


36 posted on 12/05/2016 1:31:56 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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It reduced fatalities at a couple lights, did nothing at most and actually had more at a few lights.


37 posted on 12/05/2016 1:32:11 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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So... ... red light cameras are racist??


39 posted on 12/05/2016 1:34:17 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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Is there anything in the eyes of liberals and minorities that isn't disproportionate?
41 posted on 12/05/2016 1:34:24 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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there were more total red light violations in five ZIP codes that had the city’s highest rates of poverty

Does it matter to anyone that the location where the traffic ticket was given does not necessarily correlate with to whom the ticket was given?

For example, a lot of high poverty rate zip codes include downtown areas... areas frequently by the entire spectrum of the economic scale, not just low poverty drivers.
43 posted on 12/05/2016 1:37:30 PM PST by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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The argument is bunk as cameras are unconstitutional


51 posted on 12/05/2016 1:44:13 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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Of course. It’s because low income drivers can’t afford brake pedals. Solution: raise taxes on those still fortunate to have jobs after 8 years of the Democratic War on Employment. then just increase the welfare payments to any low income driver who runs red lights. Problem solved!


54 posted on 12/05/2016 1:46:20 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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The Insurance Institute says flipping the switch on the program will likely cost lives. According to their studies, cities that ran with red-light cameras between 2010 and 2014 saw a 21 percent drop in the number of fatal red-light-running crashes, while those that turned their systems off saw a 30 percent increase.
Let’s get serious. The tech exists, and is in use abroad, to display, in seconds, the time until the light is going to turn red (or green).

If you are serious about wanting to facilitate the safe flow of traffic you will make a serious study of what effect such a digital display of “time ’til red/time til green” has on the safe flow of traffic. With or without cameras. IMHO the digital display would moot the benefit of the camera.


56 posted on 12/05/2016 1:47:16 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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A red light camera is an electronic piece of equipment. It has NO political agenda.

It does NOT know the economic strength or weakness of the person who runs the light.

This kind of pass being given to a poor driver will cause more accidents. Red light runners are as dangerous than drunk drivers-—and drunks who run red lights are the worst.


59 posted on 12/05/2016 1:50:23 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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What is the purpose of a Red Light camera?

#1 Income to the convicted felons who bribe government officials to install them.

#2 Income to City, a smaller cut than the briber. But, of course, the bribes have to come out of his cut.

#3 Invasion of privacy of citizens. Unreasonable search is unreasonable search when it searches (photos) everyone, law abider and law breaker alike, with no reasonable suspicion that the law abider might be a law breaker.

#4 Overwhelming anecdotes of drivers doing stupid stuff to avoid getting caught.


61 posted on 12/05/2016 1:57:38 PM PST by spintreebob
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The studies that were local to us, and performed by a local college, showed that there was a (slight) decrease in fatalities - one, over the course of a year. Statistically insignificant, unless, I suppose, you were the extra single fatality.

There was, however, an enormous increase in PD and injury accidents - think, people jam on their brakes to avoid a ticket, thus causing an accident. Not fatal, but mostly completely avoidable by turning off the "helpful" cameras.

The town's answer was to throw out the data they didn't like, and hire a consultant who would provide them the answer that they wanted, thus ensuring the revenue stream would continue.

62 posted on 12/05/2016 1:57:46 PM PST by wbill
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Sounds like a clear case of entrapment.

Haven’t democrats in the government been telling them that they don’t have to obey the laws?


63 posted on 12/05/2016 1:59:47 PM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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They SAY “low income” but what they REALLY mean is MEXICAN.


71 posted on 12/05/2016 2:18:35 PM PST by gaijin
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Disproportionately issued to low income drivers. They are set to edit out violations by Jags, Mercedes and Escalades...
72 posted on 12/05/2016 2:26:04 PM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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Disproportionately issued to low income drivers.

They are set to edit out violations by Jags, Mercedes and Escalades...

73 posted on 12/05/2016 2:28:00 PM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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Don’t care for her reasoning, but I like getting rid of the cameras.


74 posted on 12/05/2016 2:31:18 PM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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Don’t do the crime

If you can’t pay the fine


76 posted on 12/05/2016 2:52:02 PM PST by fella ("As this iiwas before Noah so shall it be again,")
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According to their studies, cities that ran with red-light cameras between 2010 and 2014 saw a 21 percent drop in the number of fatal red-light-running crashes, while those that turned their systems off saw a 30 percent increase.

an increase of 2 seconds to the yellow with a half-second where all lights are red will have the same effect. Obviously, this would not generate revenue, so it is seldom considered.

79 posted on 12/05/2016 3:28:42 PM PST by zeugma (I'm going to get fat from all this schadenfreude)
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