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Sheriff's investigation finds Obama birth certificate 'fake'
World Net Daily ^ | 15 December 2016 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 12/15/2016 4:30:41 PM PST by Fractal Trader

A years-long forensics investigation into the computer image of the long-form Hawaiian birth certificate image that Barack Obama released during a White House news conference during his first term and presented to the American people as an official government document reveals it is “fake.”

It also confirms those who were subjected to the derogatory “birther” label from many media outlets and Democrats for badgering Obama with lawsuits, petitions to the Supreme Court, and more, were right – at least in the dispute that the document was manufactured and the questions about Obama’s birth and legitimacy to be president under the Constitution’s requirements still are unanswered.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: arpaio; bc; bho44; birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certifigate; demlies; fauxbama; fauxpotus; manchuriancandidate; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; obamafamily; usurper
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To: Fantasywriter; Seizethecarp

It would make it 7 points of forgery. And it would also show the slipshod nature of the investigations.

BTW five of the remaining points are also questionable.


441 posted on 12/30/2016 12:57:31 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Sorry, Zoltan, but you’ve tried too many idiot defenses of Obama on me in the past. Your credidibily with me is zero.

The reason I went to reddit and studied the reaction to Arpaio’s presser there is twofold. First, I don’t and have never claimed to be an expert in this area. Second, as I previously noted, a massive percentage of the posters on the thread I excerpted make their living writing code. (One of them, whose analysis I recently read, actually worked on the beta version of the copier that you Obots claim inserted the layers.) These are the techies among us; they know what they’re talking about.

Not one—not even ONE—raised any flags re Zullo & CO’s analysis. Indeed, in that entire discussion and several others, only one issue ever arose. Namely, a couple of different posters wondered if Obama’s could be the original, and Ah’Nee’s the copy.

So who am I going to believe, the techies who write code for a living, or an Obot who has proposed some insanely absurd explanations as to why there is no trace of Stanley Ann in HI in the mos leading up to the birth and for ~a year afterward?

Hint: not you. You shot the last vestiges of your credibility long ago.


442 posted on 12/30/2016 1:16:18 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Nite: not caring if I spelled Ah’Nee correctly or not; not interested enough to check.


443 posted on 12/30/2016 1:19:41 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Nite = Note


444 posted on 12/30/2016 1:20:17 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter; Seizethecarp
Since you believe in credibility why did Zullo lie in the press conference?

He said,

"AP distributed White House photos of the birth certificates purportedly that they took while they were there. Those are not AP photos; they are White House handout JPEG images create by the White House. That means the White House has the ability to create JPEGS. In those files those JPEGS were altered by Photoshop. Why are you creating Photoshopped enhanced JPEGS when you just have to take a picture of the document and put it up on the web.”

Even you are smart enough to see that Jake Tapper is not holding a JPEG image file but a real piece of paper. so why lie about it?

BTW, nothing in the Reddit posts says they looked at the PDF in detail.

445 posted on 12/30/2016 2:08:39 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

You’re obsession bores me. One pic of Tapper does not make Zullo a liar. If you had read all the reddit threads on the subject, you’d know what you’re talking about.


446 posted on 12/30/2016 2:11:54 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

You’re = Your


447 posted on 12/30/2016 2:15:29 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

So I read some of the reddit threads and your experts say that you cannot scan to a PDF and get layers. LOL

What a bunch buffoons.

Zullo himself said they were able to do exactly that and that’s why they dropped all the stuff about layers.


448 posted on 12/30/2016 2:46:14 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter

The Fogblowers reached the same conclusion, but for now I’ll go with Arpaio and Zullo’s two court certified experts whose full results are still confidential!

The exact placement of the two stamps that was determined to have been virtually impossible to have been done by human hand from one document to the other arriving microscopically at the same geometric angle for each one is the conclusive proof of the forgery, in my understanding.

The other 7 bits that were moved in a group are icing in the cake.


449 posted on 12/30/2016 3:04:02 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: 4Zoltan

‘So I read some of the reddit threads and your experts say that you cannot scan to a PDF and get layers.’

Put your money where your mouth is, and post a link.


450 posted on 12/30/2016 3:14:06 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Seizethecarp

Thanks for that info. There were also a couple of ink spots, unless I’m mistaken?


451 posted on 12/30/2016 3:16:14 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: pissant
SHOCKER! Loretta Fuddy - The Cult of Subud - Barack Obama and His REAL FATHER?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xck4t1jVnAQ
452 posted on 12/30/2016 3:22:23 PM PST by jarofants (Everyone Loves Barry!!! (Sarc))
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To: 4Zoltan; Will J Diamond

Since it’s Obot Day on FR, I have a question for the two of you. Namely, do you both agree that Malcolm X fathered Obama? You appear to be on board with that narrative as, to the best of my knowledge, neither of you has ever disputed it. Silence is consent. So may we count you both as Mal-Valers?


453 posted on 12/30/2016 3:24:58 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

A link to the idiots at reddit or zullo?


454 posted on 12/30/2016 4:09:00 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Reread post #450. The answer is there.


455 posted on 12/30/2016 4:14:42 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Seizethecarp

Which two court certified experts?

What is the angle that they keep talking about? 2.5 degrees, 1.6 degrees.


456 posted on 12/30/2016 4:16:28 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter

https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5ill1f/obamas_birth_certificate_proven_a_forgery/


457 posted on 12/30/2016 4:21:52 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter

Have seen no evidence one way or the other. Have not been involved in the Mal-Valers stuff to any great degree.


458 posted on 12/30/2016 4:24:37 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Bol!!!

3,702 comments. You want me to take your word for it that one of them agrees with you?

Fat chance. I’ve seen firsthand the way you twist, distort, pervert and otherwise dishonestly misconstrue facts and evidence you don’t like. Your word, as I’ve already explained, has zero credibility with me.

Cut and paste this anomalous—or is it mythical?—post. I want to read the replies to it. Haha.


459 posted on 12/30/2016 4:29:05 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: 4Zoltan

Okay; you’re in the ‘No idea who Obama’s father is,’ camp.

Thanks for that info.


460 posted on 12/30/2016 4:30:53 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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