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In another thread there was some predicting of what Obama's next Israel surprise might be. I posted there and post here again that my gut says "recognition of the "Palestinian" state. This article starts the murmurings but I just listened to an interview with an Israeli spokesman on Fox where they said that John Kerry will make a proposal soon at the UN for the creation of 2 states along the 1967 borders.

This will give Obama the ability to recognize diplomatically the new Palestinian state. If my reading is correct (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Diplomatic+recognition) Obama can do this without congress.

Suppose he did that and a host of other nations immediately followed suit. POTUSe can't undo anything except for the US recognition but the international recognition would still be there.

I am still digesting this but the knee jerk reaction is to let the UN know that its lease expires on 1 Feb 2017 and they should start looking for new digs somewhere in Europe but maybe there are better answers/reaction/actions that could be taken. I'm all ears

I believe I read it here right after the election that the next couple of months may be the most dangerous in US History. I fear the prophetic nature of that post.

1 posted on 12/26/2016 11:27:09 AM PST by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

I hope Mossad is taking notes


2 posted on 12/26/2016 11:29:02 AM PST by LeoWindhorse (America First !)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines
Two state "solution" to what?
3 posted on 12/26/2016 11:30:51 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

to let the UN know that its lease expires on 1 Feb 2017 and they should start looking for new digs somewhere in Europe


Why just Europe. Let them move to Zimbabwe if they want. It’s more their kind of country.


4 posted on 12/26/2016 11:31:11 AM PST by samtheman (Voted Trump)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

If a two state solution is forced on Israel they need to make it perfectly clear that an attack by a sovereign state, even newly formed, on Israel will result
in war.


5 posted on 12/26/2016 11:31:43 AM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

How much money is Obama getting from his Muslim Brothers ?


8 posted on 12/26/2016 11:38:53 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Obama did this on purpose because he wanted to stick it to Trump..a friend of mine on facebook, her sister votes Democrat, down the line..she is Persian Jewish, she was SHOCKED that Obama did this so I replied “You voted for Obama TWICE, you voted for Hillary Clinton and your shocked LOL go look in the mirror”


10 posted on 12/26/2016 11:43:17 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Two stage solution

1. Encourage Jordan to annex the west bank ( with money and other aid)

2. Encourage Egypt to re annex Gaza ( with money and Hamas extermination tools)


11 posted on 12/26/2016 11:44:43 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Why does Kerry still have his Government credit card and Plane ?


13 posted on 12/26/2016 11:52:33 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Trump can withdraw the recognition, and turn off the foreign aid payments. Let the other jackals who recognize this farce finance the new “country”. Then we can see how long this lasts.


15 posted on 12/26/2016 11:56:43 AM PST by Bernard (The Road To Hell Is Not Paved With Good Results)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines
WH Defends Israeli Vote Move: Threatens Two-State Solution in Region

Trying to defend the indefensible.
The usual, customary, and expected lies and Bullshiit from the Odumbo white hut. Thank God they will be gone soon. DRAIN THE SWAMP!!

17 posted on 12/26/2016 12:02:23 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

i have a bad feeling that recognition is coming from the snake. so i assume Israel is weighing its options - recognition by I on its own terms to pre-empt, allowing recognition to happen then taking advantage of any act of war by P’s to launch a new war which resets the clock, annexation of territories presumed Israeli, etc. if we’re thinking about it, of course the Israeli strategists are. over 130 countries have already recognized P state. the thing is - which one? led by Abbas? led by Hamas? led by someone representing the many P’s in Jordan? i can see them fighting amongst themselves just to resolve that. prayers up for Israel. no way Jewish Quarter is Palestinian occupied territory or the Western Wall either. this is already war.


18 posted on 12/26/2016 12:10:43 PM PST by avital2
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines
0bama is coming up with two more states?

That makes a total of 59 !!!!!!

23 posted on 12/26/2016 2:42:39 PM PST by TYVets
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To: Jeremiah Jr; Mr. M.J.B.; Ancesthntr; cyn
Resolution 2334:

Here's an 'interesting' place, FYI:

(gematria)

Obadiah 18. And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau stubble, and they shall burn them and consume them; and none shall remain of the house of Esau; for the Lord has spoken it:

והיה בית יעקב אש ובית יוסף להבה ובית עשו לקש ודלקו בהם ואכלום ולא יהיה שריד לבית עשו כי יהוה דבר

Also, all of v. 28, shortly before the family reunion of Jacob and Joseph:

Gen 45

26. And told him, saying, Joseph is yet alive, and he is governor over all the land of Egypt; And Jacob's heart fainted, for he believed them not:
27. And they told him all the words of Joseph, which he had said to them; and when he saw the wagons which Joseph had sent to carry him, the spirit of Jacob their father revived:
28. And Israel said, It is enough; Joseph my son is yet alive; I will go and see him before I die:

Well there you go, Israel thought he was going to die, but...

(5) The Midrash and Gemara explain based on a verse in the Book of Obadiah; "The House of Jacob shall be a fire and the House of Joseph a flame and the House of Esau for straw." (6) A fire cannot destroy straw unless it has a flame with which to spread the fire. Accordingly, Joseph is compared to a flame in that Jacob alone is not able to overcome Esau unless he has the 'flame' of Joseph to spread his own power to the extent that Esau can be overcome. The Gemara then proves that on all the occasions that the Jewish people overcame Esau's descendants, Amalek, in battle, it was only with the aid of Joseph's descendants.(7) We also see this in the fact that Joshua, a descendant of Joseph through Ephraim, overcame Amalek in war. The Midrash stresses that it is the descendants of Rachel in particular who have this ability.(8) And ultimately we know that there will be a Mashiach ben Yosef (a Messiah that descends from the Tribe of Joseph). His role will be to destroy our enemies and pave the way for Mashiach ben David to complete the positive actions of ending the Exile and rebuilding the Temple.

http://www.aish.com/tp/i/gl/231571891.html

Joseph is still alive,

And God remembered Rachel.

Obama/Hillary/Uniparty/Fedzilla and comrades = the Establishment = Esau
We the People = Joseph

Is it any wonder why all hell broke loose?

*trump*

24 posted on 12/26/2016 2:58:54 PM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

About seventy nations are meeting in France before O’bummer leaves office to order and shape the two state solution. Israel and the Palis are not invited. They are going to dictate a solution...like a final solution for Israel.


25 posted on 12/26/2016 3:32:37 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Spose Hussein intends to “solve” the Palestinian/Israel policy before he leaves office? Totally blowing that up would be a fitting last gasp for his administration. it is probably too late to order an invasion of Israel but he could call an air strike against Israel’s nuclear capability.


26 posted on 12/26/2016 4:25:48 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines; SaraJohnson; Ezekiel
This will give Obama the ability to recognize diplomatically the new Palestinian state. If my reading is correct (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Diplomatic+recognition) Obama can do this without congress.

Suppose he did that and a host of other nations immediately followed suit. POTUSe can't undo anything except for the US recognition but the international recognition would still be there.

Well...

Jeremiah 1:13 And the word of the Lord came to me the second time, saying, “What do you see?”

And I said, “I see a boiling pot, and it is facing away from the north.”

14 Then the Lord said to me:

“Out of the north calamity shall break forth On all the inhabitants of the land.

15 For behold, I am calling All the families of the kingdoms of the north,” says the Lord; “They shall come and each one set his throne At the entrance of the gates of Jerusalem, Against all its walls all around, And against all the cities of Judah.

16 I will utter My judgments Against them concerning all their wickedness, Because they have forsaken Me, Burned incense to other gods, And worshiped the works of their own hands.

17 “Therefore prepare yourself and arise, And speak to them all that I command you. Do not be dismayed before their faces, Lest I dismay you before them.
18 For behold, I have made you this day A fortified city and an iron pillar, And bronze walls against the whole land— Against the kings of Judah, Against its princes, Against its priests, And against the people of the land.

19 They will fight against you, But they shall not prevail against you. For I am with you,” says the Lord, “to deliver you.”

All the families of the kingdoms of the north

Therefore prepare yourself and arise...

30 posted on 12/26/2016 5:37:01 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHI)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

This is drive-by diplomacy to the nth degree by Obama. He and Kerry pull this stunt as they are being shown the door. An act of stupidity they would never have dared had Hillary won.


31 posted on 12/26/2016 6:51:11 PM PST by Saltmeat
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