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$100 million in annual toll fines put citizens on road to ‘toll bankruptcy’
The Maryland Reporter ^ | February 7, 2017 | Dan Menefee

Posted on 02/27/2017 5:19:00 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Gaffer
Toll roads are like taxes; they are FOREVER.
When the NY State Thruway (40 year) bonds were paid off in the mid 1990s, the tolls were supposed to disappear. They didn't.
Now Comrade Cuomo wants to spend $500 MILLION to make the Thruway cashless. Friggin' commie b@stard.
21 posted on 02/27/2017 6:03:10 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Ass.... Malloy is working on bringing them back to connecticut.


22 posted on 02/27/2017 6:03:10 AM PST by Surrounded_too
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To: cyclotic

I drive on I-95 to and from work every day. I have used the express probably less then once a month, only when traffic is very bad. And by the looks of it, I am not the only person to do the same thing.


23 posted on 02/27/2017 6:06:31 AM PST by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: cyclotic

I think the ICC is pulling in expected revenue, but that’s far from enough to pay off the bonds. Hence, the toll increases elsewhere on the system, reduced somewhat by Governor Hogan.


24 posted on 02/27/2017 6:11:15 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Life was so much better before Hart-Cellar.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; cyclotic

Toll increases were for other capital projects on the system as well.


25 posted on 02/27/2017 6:12:05 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Life was so much better before Hart-Cellar.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sounds like NY too


26 posted on 02/27/2017 6:12:11 AM PST by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: HLPhat; Mouton

Eisenhower’s original intent was for interstate highways to have tolls, but Congress had other ideas, and Eisenhower ultimately accepted the gas tax method of funding.


27 posted on 02/27/2017 6:13:58 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Life was so much better before Hart-Cellar.)
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To: quikdrw

I commuted from Aberdeen to Baltimore during most of the building of this monstrosity. About as soon as it opened, I began working from home and missed out on the commute.

But, I can’t tell you how many times at all different times of day, I’ll track a car that got on the express lanes. He’s usually still in sight, sometimes in my mirror when he re-joins regular traffic.


28 posted on 02/27/2017 6:14:29 AM PST by cyclotic (Republicans Are without excuse. Flood the Resolute Desk with sane legislation.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Tolls for the Chesapeake Bay Bridge were originally intended to be temporary, but they are basically permanent.


29 posted on 02/27/2017 6:15:22 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Life was so much better before Hart-Cellar.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Cocoa Beach area had a $0.25 toll on a stretch of the Bee Line going to Orlando, from the Space Center. When the life of the toll was done, the bond for road was paid for, the bureaucrats did not remove the toll right away. They collected for another year to pay for removing the toll booth.


30 posted on 02/27/2017 6:24:35 AM PST by Quick Shot
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Eisenhower’s original intent was for interstate highways to have tolls,

 

Eisenhower's "original intent" can be read here...

"The Governor's Conference and the President's Advisory Committee are agreed that the Federal share of the needed construction program should be about 30 percent of the toal, leaving to State and local units responsibility to finance the reamaineder...

...Financing of interstate and Federal-aid systems should be based on the planned use of increasing revenues from present gas and diesel oil taxes, augmented in limited instances with tolls"

Message to the Congress regarding highways, February 22, 1955 [White House Office, Office of the Press Secretary to the President, Box 4, Press Releases Feb. 8-March 14, 1955; NAID #16857605]

https://www.eisenhower.archives.gov/research/online_documents/interstate_highway_system/1955_02_22_Message_to_Congress.pdf

It appears it was congress who wanted toll roads...

Who created the Interstate System?

The concept of an Interstate system as we know it was first described in a 1939 report to Congress called Toll Roads and Free Roads. The report rejected the toll superhighway network Congress had suggested; revenue from tolls on most segments would not support the bonds issued for their construction. However, the report added that the country needed a toll-free express highway network. 

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Through the remainder of his years as President, he searched for ways to solve the problems that plagued the program in its early years and pushed for continued work on the Interstate System. His leadership in promoting the 1956 Act and moving the program forward on schedule has earned President Eisenhower the title "Father of the Interstate System."

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/faq.cfm

 

Limited Instances - not the predatory "bidness as usual" model being inflicted today...

“Toll road backer hires Halliburton subsidiary”

http://m.gazette.com/toll-road-backer-hires-halliburton-subsidiary/article/18581

 

Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech

Origins and Significance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jvHynP9Y



31 posted on 02/27/2017 6:44:27 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And that is one of about three reasons why I take I-81 (sixty miles extra) rather than I-95 when driving from Georgia to Connecticut...minimize time and tolls in Maryland. The other two reasons are New Jersey and NYC.


32 posted on 02/27/2017 7:00:06 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Over 11 years ago, while my wife and I were traveling around the country deciding where we wanted to move to, we had our mail forwarded to my brother in MD. For about 8 weeks he would box it up once a week and UPS it to us where ever we were.

Fast forward after we had been living in another state for a year or two. We get a letter from the Freak State demanding that we pay state income tax for the year in which those 8 weeks occurred if we couldn’t prove we weren’t living there. MD didn’t think it had to prove we were living there.

I responded appropriately and received confirmation from MD that the issue was settled. Now, 10 years later I still have a file saved on the whole matter because I know some paper pusher could dig out the file and claim we owe them money...start it up all over again.


33 posted on 02/27/2017 7:14:16 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
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To: cyclotic

I wonder who the MTA lobbyist spent time and money with The right to due process is not provided here in any way. It should be unconstitutional.


34 posted on 02/27/2017 7:16:32 AM PST by Demanwideplan
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To: Demanwideplan
>>The right to due process is not provided here in any way. It should be unconstitutional.

 

COMMERCE BETWEEN MASTER AND SLAVE IS ___________?

 


35 posted on 02/27/2017 7:21:15 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Never understood tolls, unfortunately thenorthern horror taxation is now everywhere. It’s like taking your liter sofa back to the store everyday to pay for it again. Tolls are not being used for anything more than union pensions and govt shell games. We are all Living in taxachusetts. Liberal money laundering. Let’s take a failed policy and do it again.


36 posted on 02/27/2017 7:28:47 AM PST by momincombatboots (Line up dems, Donald is going to save your district with a trillion nonexistent stimulus dollars.)
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7 On Your Side asks MTA to take a look at 3 Md. drivers E-ZPass fines, saves them $68,000 (1/11)
37 posted on 02/27/2017 7:47:20 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Life was so much better before Hart-Cellar.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Tolls - because the Democrats stole all the money you already paid in taxes to build the road.


38 posted on 02/27/2017 7:52:14 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: quikdrw

The problem with the express lanes is that they don’t go far enough. Heading south, you’re dumped back into general traffic before the Fort McHenry Tunnel bottleneck. And going north, yeah it helps if you’re going to White Marsh, but otherwise you’re dumped back into general traffic well before you get to Bel Air.

The solution, at least on the south end, would have been to add two tunnel tubes and four lanes of traffic (two each way) from the tunnel down to I-395. But since it would probably be cheaper to establish colonies on Mars than it would be to build all that, a cheaper solution would have been to have one of the tunnel tubes be reversible, and have reversible lanes from there down to I-395. So, in the morning, you’d have a total of 4 general lanes plus 2 express lanes going south, and 2 general lanes going north; reverse that in the afternoon.

An added bonus of this would be that you could have both outbound lanes of I-395 to I-95 south continue through (in the afternoon) instead of having them merge into one lane, thus causing backups on I-395. (I.e. 2 general lanes on I-95 going south before I-395, plus the 2 lanes from I-395 heading to south I-95, joining together to form 4 lanes of I-95, which is what you have now.)

Yeah, I know, it all makes too much sense; so it’ll never happen.


39 posted on 02/27/2017 7:57:25 AM PST by bus man (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Another reason why I’m glad got my EZ Pass transponder from Penn DOT.


40 posted on 02/28/2017 5:20:14 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush the Democrats; see them driven before you and hear the lamentaion of the girly men.)
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